Sayoc Winkler hawk Full size & Short size comparison.

[Edwood7]

Sayoc Winkler hawk Full size & Short size comparison.

Here’s a comparison of the full sized version of the R & D Hawk whit the new shorter version; I got the sort one first and because I was so happy whit it y ordered a full sized one whit the front spike from Mr. Winkler.

The shorter version has a curly maple handle whit a smooth finish; I guess it could get slippery if diploid in wet conditions, but the full sized hawk has a textured finish on the curly maple handle for more of a grip, just like mi Winkler Knives II belt knife, a very smart and well taught out improvement.

It would appear that Mr. Winkler is constantly improving his products by tanking in to account the reports he gets from people that are using this tools in the field.

No glare Caswell Finish

KG protective finish, Juggle pattern.

 

[Edwood7]

Hear are a few pictures a found on the internet when I was studding the hawk. I like to know what I’m getting before I buy it

This is a head hunters axe, from what I know it’s the bassist of the designee of the R & D Hawk.

Kalinga tribe (Igorot), Abra Province, Luzon Island. Datu piece. Below ferrule rest of axe is covered in pierced brass in geometric design. At bottom is ferrule made of white brass in chased geometric design.

Tomahawk custom made by Justin Garvey for the Sayoc International Group.

 

[Russ Andrews]

Elwood7,
where did you find the pic of the headhunter's axe..?
I have one and would like to learn what I can about it...

Thanks

 

[Edwood7]

Elwood7,
where did you find the pic of the headhunter's axe..?
I have one and would like to learn what I can about it...

Thanks

http://www.filhistory.com/weapon-sword/page/13/

http://www.collectorsdeck.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22

These are a few a found useful.

 

[crossada]

thanks for the pics. it's hard to say which one i like better.

 

[Edwood7]

thanks for the pics. it's hard to say which one i like better.

The full sized hawk is my new favorite, the small one has its place, but the spiked hawk is all business. I’m taking the large one when we go out on field operations that don’t require being in the car or helicopter, the small one goes on the urban operations.

 

[Dusty One]

Sayoc Winkler hawk Full size & Short size comparison.

Very Nice............

 

[kscarter1825]

Both Hawks are great looking and thanks for posting the pics. I was wondering though, what is the reason for the point on the front of the large hawk (besides the fact that it looks really cool)??

 

[Hesparus]

When I first saw the Sayoc Winkler hawk, I admit that I didn't like it much. It's really grown on me after repeatedly seeing it, though. I wonder if you could tell me (1) what steel is it made of? (2) How thick is the steel? and (3) does the tang taper or is it skeletonized or anything?
Thanks,
Chris

 

[Edwood7]

The head is designed primarily as a fighting weapon to be used both with a swing like a regular tomahawk, and as more of a slashing type weapon when held by the grip area just under the head. The forward spike is designed to cause a lot of damage when the need arises. Make no mistake, these designs were developed for guys that have a real need for a weapon with these capabilities. They are not camp tools or politically correct in a regular peaceful world. Just like an M-4 rifle, maybe it can be used for hunting deer or rabbits but that is not what it was designed for. I am not saying there is anything wrong with other axe designs, just that these were developed with the help of and for those that use them and are very good at their job.

Designed so that the heaviest area rests at the head, the hawk's full tang is milled to a taper reducing overall weight to an approximate 1 1/2 lbs. Available in either curly maple, black micarta or recycled rubber and featuring an upward curved end to reinforce grip, the handle is 13 inches long.

The steel is 5160 with a no-glare finish.

 

[NC Mystic]

Hear are a few pictures a found on the internet when I was studding the hawk. I like to know what I’m getting before I buy it

This is a head hunters axe, from what I know it’s the bassist of the designee of the R & D Hawk.

Kalinga tribe (Igorot), Abra Province, Luzon Island. Datu piece. Below ferrule rest of axe is covered in pierced brass in geometric design. At bottom is ferrule made of white brass in chased geometric design.

Tomahawk custom made by Justin Garvey for the Sayoc International Group.

can te justin garvey tomahawk still be purchased anywhere?

 

[Edwood7]

I think hes not making them any more. I spent some time trying to get in touch with him with no luck. If your looking for something like it, you might like this one. It's called the Graymatter, it's made by Navy Seal reservist and expert survival instructor "Tracker" Dan Stanchfield.

 

[foxx]

Both Hawks are great looking and thanks for posting the pics. I was wondering though, what is the reason for the point on the front of the large hawk (besides the fact that it looks really cool)??

That front spike is there to concentrate the impact onto the single point, which initiates material separation. The underside fo the spike is sharp, and that "notch" acts almost like a gut hook. In my experience, swinging mine at a raw turkey breast, it takes very little effort to slice through soft material. All sharp tomahawks would probably cut through a turkey breast as well.
But, the front spike helped the hawk to cut right through the denim I had wrapped around it. The front spike pierces, the sharpened underside starts the cutting, and then the main edge can follow through. It's very effective.
I will say that Mr. Winkler has made a change in the way the front spike is made. Mine is thinner than the one in Ed's pics. The front spike, in Ed's pics, has a ridge that extends the thickness out over the main edge grind. Newer front spike Sayocs aren't ground the same, the front spike is thinner, for less drag.