Schrade Cut Co Identification

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I just found an interesting Schrade Cut. Co. Walden, N. Y. (Straight line stamping 1930-1948). The pattern # on the back of the main blade is 12125. I thought the first digit of the pattern # denoted the number of blades, but this is a 2 blade swell end jack and according to the pattern # it would be a single blade. The pattern # is on 2 lines with 12 on top and 125 below. The knife looks 100% original with no evidence of pin removal or replacement. The last digit should be the handle material but this has brown jigged bone with a shield, not white bone as a 5 denotes. The knife is 3 3/8 closed with rounded bolsters on both ends. Main blade is a long pull clip and second blade is a regular pull pen and both are unsharpened:). Anyone have any ideas???? Thanks, Bob
 
Welcome fourknives!

That's not the pattern number, not sure what they mean but those numbers are occassionally found on Cut.Co. knives regardless of pattern. Pattern numbers weren't applied to the blades until the Schrade_Walden days as a general rule. Got a picture?

Eric
 
Sounds like it may be this one, if so it's model # C2153 3/4 (the 3/4 denotes the clip blade, which replaces the standard spear):

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Eric
 
Eric, nice Jack knife ! Looks to be in perfect condition. Can you tell by the jigging if this is an 'early' or 'late' Cut. Co. knife ?
roland
 
Not to speak out of turn, but I believe that jigging to be pre-WWII. Which brings to mind the mystery of just when the arched stamp gave way to the straight tang stamp. Anyone?
 
I think the top pic shows earlier jigging, and the rest pretty late. But none of these knives have the arched stamp. The only arched stamp knife I have is in celluloid.

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Cal, that's a NIce bunch 'o knives there!

I believe the earliest jigging was the pick bone jigging, which is a kind of rough haphazard jigging, like the bone was picked at. The jigging on the knife I posted came somewhat later, as did the peachseed. For example, the one I posted is in the 1926 catalog, and Cal's big jack with the uber threaded bolsters shows up in the 1930 supplement. Dating anything pre-1926 is rather difficult since I don't know of anyone with an earlier catalog other that the old hardware store catalogs that may contain some Schrades. It seems that back in the early Schrade days a catalog wasn't deemed necessary since the majority of sales were done by salesmen who carried a knife roll with the actual knives in it. A picture didn't compare to handling the real thing.

Same goes for the switch to a straight line tang stamp, another Schrade mystery which might never be solved. I'll bet a lot of that old paperwork was still around when old Louis S. sold to Albert Baer. If only AB had not been so practical and kept the stuff for history's sake instead of tossing it. I think if it'd been up to Henry he would have saved it.

Speaking of Louis Schrade, Dave Swinden tells a story of how Louis was a stickler for inventory. If a run of 100 knives were to be made, 105 sets of parrts would be allowed for it, and every part, including screwups, had to accompany that run right to the end. He would toss a nickel on the factory floor and wait nearby till someone picked it up. He'd then dash over and ask "Why'd you pick that nickel up?" to which the person would reply " 'Cause it's worth five cents." "Well then why didn't you pick the blade up that was next to it? That's worth a nickel too!!"
 
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