Sebenza 31 Lock Rock?!

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  1. Hulk2e

    Hulk2e Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 18, 2014
    Can someone please post a video? Or is this issue something that can’t be captured on video.
     
  2. Ptman2000

    Ptman2000 Gold Member Gold Member

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  3. bmilleker

    bmilleker Gold Member Gold Member

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  4. Ptman2000

    Ptman2000 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Do I need to sign up and be accepted for that?

    I don’t Facebook much....
     
  5. bmilleker

    bmilleker Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nov 26, 2012
    Yup. I dont facebook much either... 100% for knives....
     
  6. Rectus9

    Rectus9

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  7. bmilleker

    bmilleker Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nov 26, 2012
    Just received my large 31 micarta. With mine, it doesn't take much for me to make it flex. With that being said, it's not flexing a lot. You can't even see it, you can feel it though. I dont think CRK should have released the 31 with this "feature". I will be using it and hopefully CRK does something about it.
     
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  8. 353

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    Feb 20, 2015
    Does the 31 have the same deep cutouts on the lockbar as the 21 has?

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    If they do I can imagine this is the actual spot where the lockbar might be forced to "give in" a little, just slightly twisting, bending or a bit of both. And also there is no help coming from the tiiiiny contactpoint of the ceramic ball/bladesteel interface.

    I dont have a Inkosi, 25 or Umnum but it would be interesting to compare the different lockbars to the one on the 31.
     
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  9. Ad58

    Ad58

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    May 23, 2005
    Well, that's it! No 31 for me. I love my large Inkosi and Zaan. I was thinking about a 31 Insingo (if they come) but I think it will be an Inkosi Insingo then!
    It sounds to me that CRK has a major problem with the 31. From a US $500,- knife I expect perfection. Especially from CRK. I hope so they will solve this!
     
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  10. cbr1000

    cbr1000

    Jan 31, 2013
    Ugh, I've been following this thread and it's thrown my plans out the door... more waiting is what I'm leaning towards now.
     
  11. bmilleker

    bmilleker Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nov 26, 2012
    For the people who have a 31 already, could they have added a ball track to the tang of the blade like they do on Inkosi's and this issue would be solved? A ball track gives more surface area for the ceramic ball to hit, creating less of a pivot point. Rather than the single, tiny point of contact that the 31 currently has. I understand from a machining perspective how it's easier not to add it, but it seems like they should have.

    I can easily move the lock bar towards the stop pin. With a ball track, this wouldn't be possible.

    This knife was just shy of $1000CDN after brokerage charges. It should be perfect.

    #sebenzagate
     
  12. BMCGear

    BMCGear Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    I could be mistaken but I believe that the Inkosi no longer has the groove. That was a short lived feature that eventually was taken away.
     
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  13. BD_01

    BD_01 Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    Thanks for your explanation of how this new “feature” works.

    My ol’ 10 watt upstairs is flickering now. ;)
     
  14. BP_

    BP_ Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 26, 2015
    It’s not nearly as bad as this thread is making it seem.

    I am extremely particular, unrealistic even, when it comes to things like this. It’s not driving me crazy. Not even close. It’s actually “tightening up” (not sure if science can back this claim or not) as I use it more.

    To even get it to move the slightest, most insignificant (almost not even noticeable at this point) amount, I have to put pressure on the spine I do not feel comfortable putting on it because I have to fist the entire frame which puts my fingers in the path of the blade (knife 101 no-no).

    I honestly don’t consider it a flaw, even on a six hundred dollar knife. It’s right and tight, and at no point during use have I even given thought to this “issue” as it were.

    Again, just trying to help those on the fence or leaning toward cancelling orders. Everyone has their own opinion, and own thoughts on what a CRK should be. It’s a great knife all around. And the action is amazing on mine.

    I don’t necessarily like how CRK put things, especially to people like us who pick apart every single word (and every single knife). But, I just do not feel the Sebenza 31 has a “quality issue” due to this particular design.

    That said, the fact that there is a potential variance in each one IS a problem. Whatever is being built should have the same consistency as every other knife coming out of that factory. If indeed the variance is the knives (and not our opinions, which has been known to happen) then it needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. A subpar quality knife shouldn’t ever make it out of there, especially for the price. Short of an entirely different knife design, I’d still keep mine though just as it is. If that says anything. :thumbsup:
     
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  15. bmilleker

    bmilleker Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nov 26, 2012
    Are you developing a ball groove?

    I'll also be keeping mine.
     
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  16. BP_

    BP_ Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 26, 2015
    It looks to have smoothed out the machining lines along the path it travels when it engages, but no actual groove that I can detect. It may be too early yet to tell.
     
  17. Caffiend

    Caffiend Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jan 15, 2016
    I have to say that since I don’t own a 31 I don’t quite understand what all the fuss was about until someone (Rectus9?) mentioned the lockbar flexing towards the stop pin. Then someone else mentioned the ball groove that was soon discontinued and how that mighty help with the lockbar flex. Well all I can share with you all as I have a 25 and all Inkosi blades with the dp being an early release with the ball groove that all of them have lockbars that flex up and down towards the stop pin with the knife open and with forefinger pressure towards the stop pin, except for the dp with the ball groove.
     
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  18. Ptman2000

    Ptman2000 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 8, 2014
    This! Mine has maybe 2 or 3 mm of movement in the blade. You can see the movement at the base and feel it.
     
  19. Caffiend

    Caffiend Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jan 15, 2016
    Dang that’s quite a bit. I had mentioned less than 1mm of play at the lockbar that you could also see and feel but edited it out as it was just a guess. Would make sense though compared to the 2-3 mm you saw at the blade end with the pivot the fulcrum point
     

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