Sheath leather - what weight?

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I need to make a few sheaths, and have no leather. Normally I would go to the local Tandy, but that is not possible now. So the next best economical thing may be E-bay. There's a great many hides and half hides for good prices, but I have no idea what weight leather to use.

JPH's book says 6 to 9 ounce. Opinions?
 
Glen, I got 7/8 oz and think I could've gotten by with somewhat lighter leather. I got it from Siegel of California, the side was about $60, a whole lot less than Tandy.

Dave
 
Some makers say 10-12 oz. but I use 8-9oz with a 8-9oz weld seam and they appear to be good and heavy, I've carried one of my knives for 3 years now in a 8-9 oz sheath and it is in great shape with lots of protection. I'm sure you'll get several different opinions, but I'm going for more leather this weekend and it will be 8-9oz.;)

Bill
 
8/9 oz (top or shoulder, the belly leather varies in thickness more than the top or shoulder) seems to be the most popular reccomendation. I've got some 10/11 oz and only use that for welts or pancake style. I like using 7/8oz for pouch style since it molds easily. Then I will heat it and soak it in hot 50/50 mix of neatsfoot and beeswax to stiffen it up. I've started to overlay a kydex liner with leather (glued, sewn and riveted) and like it. Look for vegetable tanned. There is another process using chemicals that is supposedly hard on steel although I've never tested it.
 
I bought some 8/9 oz. and I think it's way too thick for anything but a large blade. Bowies, swords, khukris, etc. For a mid-sized to small blade I'd go 6/7 or maybe 7/8.
 
I do my own sheaths as well as other makers sheaths and have found that 7-8 oz for large ,5-7 oz for medium and small and 3-5 oz for folders.I think anything over 10oz is overkill.Dave:)
 
What about deerskin? My friend and I were trying to think of a use for all the deer skins we had this year. I killed 7 total. If there is a reasonable way to tan them and use them thats alot of soft supple leather. Could make a nice buckskin sheath for a mountain man but I am afraid it would be too thin. Any ideas for next years hunt? Cory
 
Anyone use horse butt leather? If so, soft rolled or hard rolled? Thinking about getting some of that to try. Plus might want to try some belly leather too.
 
Never used horse butt.Belly cuts are cheaper but the quality is lower.The belly stretches more than shoulders,but is still good for small sheaths.Dave
 
I have good luck with these guys. They sell all kinds of grades and weights.

Muir & McDonald, Tanners
PO Box 136
505 SW Levens
Dallas, OR 97338-0136
Phone: (503) 623-2428
Fax: (503) 623-9091
Email: muirmcdon@aol.com

Fox
 
It helps to know what materials to use when you know what you are using them for. Why are you making a sheath for a knife? And we will assume that this is a user type of knife rather than one that sits in your vault. This sheath now is determined to protect the user of the knife from cuts to his person rather than protecting the knife from scratches and the weather. The secondary need for sheathing the knife is to carry the knife in a position where it is readily available. The sheath is not used to strengthen the knife, it is only used to carry the knife which involves tensile strength not thickness. Thickness of the leather is involved in order to reach the necessary stiffness to maintain the mold or fit of the sheath. It is common knowledge that the average man's belt is often asked to support a 250 pound belly and the belt is less than 8 ounces in weight. Why would it be necessary to use 11/12 ounce leather to support a knife weighing less than three pounds and that would be one big cutter? I have actually made thousands of knife sheaths and have found 7/8 ounce to me my maximum thickness required for the job. I some times (on blades over 10 inches in length) might sew a full length stiffener on the back of a sheath to limit bending. Unless you make a lot of sheaths, I would not buy the leather by the side or back but would opt for the double shoulder in carving cowhide which is vegetable tanned. Bellys, which is part of the side, are too stretchy, rarely are clean and smooth on backside and would not be used on quality merchandise. Horse butts, in soft rolled type, are excellent for sheaths and carve well, but are better left to the more experienced leather worker. SUMMARY---5/6 OZ for small sheaths for folders and small straight blades and 7/8 OZ for all other knives!
 
I use 9 or 10 oz for big blades and 6 or 7 for smaller. I like my sheaths to be heavy duty. Making a pouch sheath out of 10 oz can be pretty difficult, but I only make pouch sheaths for smaller knives anyway (for me a small knife is under 5" blade). Blahbalablah... :)
 
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