I am really having a hard time with this one. I have been looking forward to this model ever since I saw some early pics. However - 3.42" on the blade length? That seems like an awfully short blade - my caly 3.5 is longer? I love the way this knife looks, but I cannot wrap my head around the size/price correlation - seems fairly expensive for what you're getting. If this was 4-4.5", I would have one on the desk right now. I would be grateful if someone could provide some feedback concerning size and if possible provide some in hand pictures. Great looking knife - looks very solid, I'm just curious about the actual size and what the spyderco afficionados think.
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Slysz Bowie - on the fence.
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If you're looking at the Bowie as "a 3.5' knife" then it is VERY expensive for what you're getting. If you're looking at the Bowie as a production version of a Slysz custom design you've been lusting after, then this knife should be well worth it. I think that for many, this one is a very solid EDC size, and although bigger means more material it also means bigger carry for what may not be desired additional blade length.
I think partially what's tripping people up on this one is that the design itself looks fairly basic/understated. If the custom it was based on was more flashy, and it looked less like the K2, I wonder if we'd be having these pricing discussions.
I think partially what's tripping people up on this one is that the design itself looks fairly basic/understated. If the custom it was based on was more flashy, and it looked less like the K2, I wonder if we'd be having these pricing discussions.
The price does not bother me all that much, it is more the size of the blade. I realize that Spyderco is moving up in quality/features on some of their models, specifically the collaborations and I have no problem with the pricing and the direction it is going - I just would have liked to have seen a bigger blade. I do like the collaborations - I think its great that Spyderco is bringing some more upscale knives to the market.
I held one over the weekend. It's a great knife, just not for the price, IMO. I have a Southard and Schempp Tuff and i struggle to see why this knife is more expensive than those two. Smaller blade with inferior steel (compared to those two, not overall) with a styling that in no way makes it stand out. As an EDC, i think the styling is perfect because it's quite muted, which would be attractive for a lot of users, but i just can't see it for that price. Especially when it doesn't utilize any sort of ball bearing system. The Domino has a street price that is $100 less, and utilizes the same steel.
It's a good knife at a price point that makes it a not so good value. Once again, my opinion. People will buy it regardless, but it's not for me.
It's a good knife at a price point that makes it a not so good value. Once again, my opinion. People will buy it regardless, but it's not for me.
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I think it's great that spyderco is heading into the higher end production territory.
I love their originals... Endura /delica and think they are amongst the best value in knives.
I been really wanting a techno for awhile. And also really want a grayman Satu. I thought maybe the bowie would be in the middle. However I don't see the endura/delica spyderco value here.
I also think for this type of knife I would prefer to have a techno for around the city and a Satu when in the field. I think this could be a nice size for someone and if it was $100 less or if I was crazy about it that could be me... I think I'll wait and see before I decide, but I'm thinking going to pass on it. I think
I love their originals... Endura /delica and think they are amongst the best value in knives.
I been really wanting a techno for awhile. And also really want a grayman Satu. I thought maybe the bowie would be in the middle. However I don't see the endura/delica spyderco value here.
I also think for this type of knife I would prefer to have a techno for around the city and a Satu when in the field. I think this could be a nice size for someone and if it was $100 less or if I was crazy about it that could be me... I think I'll wait and see before I decide, but I'm thinking going to pass on it. I think
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This discussion reminds me of what happened when the Techno came out. We had the same discussion about size and price with that knife, but eventually the Techno caught on. Fortunately the Bowie isn't a sprint and we can take our time to make up our minds on this one, too.
Love the Techno, but it is a no go for me - just too small. I have given all of my small spydercos away. This is why I am having a problem with the Slysz - love the way it looks and am sure that it is as ergonomically pleasant to hold and use as any Spyderco, but just cannot get past the blade length. I guess part of it has to do with the 9-10 production and custom bowies in my knife box - they all are in the 9-12" range. Maybe if they didn't label it "Bowie" I could get past the size! (jk) I think alot of the points Veshtan makes are valid. I would have liked to have seen a better blade steel. Bearings would have been nice. That being said, when its a collab, the price goes up, with good reason. I think the collaborations breath a little fresh air into the lineup.
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I have been trying to reserve judgement until I can hold one. I will have to fall in love with it to overcome the price objection.
One thing I think is certain. We wouldn't be having this conversation if we all didn't think it looks like a great product. But I have bought and sold enough knives to know that looks aren't always enough.
One thing I think is certain. We wouldn't be having this conversation if we all didn't think it looks like a great product. But I have bought and sold enough knives to know that looks aren't always enough.
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It's a very nice knife and very well made, but there is nothing magic about it that puts it in a different league to other Taichung knives, or which can't be understood from the photos. So if the price is a real sticking point, you may want to look at other options.
Apart from the price (or the steel at that price point), the only thing I'd change would be to make that blade stock a little thicker. I thought that when I first saw it, and handling it re-inforces the view, as I like the balance point on the first finger, but it is a little behind that (at the center of the cut-out).
Apart from the price (or the steel at that price point), the only thing I'd change would be to make that blade stock a little thicker. I thought that when I first saw it, and handling it re-inforces the view, as I like the balance point on the first finger, but it is a little behind that (at the center of the cut-out).
For those wondering where the cost of this one comes from, Mike Janich just confirmed over on the Spyderco forums that the high finishing costs associated with staying true to the custom are the culprit.
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Got mine yesterday and must admit, it is a stunning piece. The fit and finish is fantastic and the blade literally flies out with a thumb flick. The blade is perfectly centered and razor sharp. The only thing I'm having to get use to is not being able to use my middle finger to flick the blade open, other than that I'm totally satisfied with my purchase.
here is a crappy cell phone pic
here is a crappy cell phone pic
I have wanted one from the onset,however It looked a little on the large size, so I took a trip up to the Spyderco factory and the knife is better than I expected ,not much heavier than my Blur and nice slim feel will be easy to get used to,one of the things that I did not care for much was the framelock didn't have a piece of hardened steel on the lock face to reduce wear also the knife is pretty spendy,don't care the reason why ,just 300 is a few dollars to shell out with all the other offerings out there but I am definitely picking one up,also the Farid knife is way awesome(total beast )easier on the pocket than you would think despite it's size.
I know, how unseemly it is for a knife to actually be in stock.
I used to compete in powerlifting, and we had a joke: "Everyone stronger than me is on steroids, everyone weaker than me is a p****Y."
These comments (coupled with the simultaneous clamor for more runs of out of stock knives) remind me of that joke.
"Spyderco needs more production capacity for every knife that's out of stock, every knife that's in stock is overpriced."
I guess Spyderco should only make PM2s and S110V Manix LWTs? I know you didn't say that "every knife that's in stock is overpriced" but your comment just made me muse about the tug of war that goes on for Spyderco regarding pricing and production.
I used to compete in powerlifting, and we had a joke: "Everyone stronger than me is on steroids, everyone weaker than me is a p****Y."
These comments (coupled with the simultaneous clamor for more runs of out of stock knives) remind me of that joke.
"Spyderco needs more production capacity for every knife that's out of stock, every knife that's in stock is overpriced."
I guess Spyderco should only make PM2s and S110V Manix LWTs? I know you didn't say that "every knife that's in stock is overpriced" but your comment just made me muse about the tug of war that goes on for Spyderco regarding pricing and production.
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This knife has been talked about for awhile. A ton of people have been waiting for it just like a ton of people were waiting on the Southard to be released. Once the Southward was released you couldn't find it anywhere for months. This knife was just released and is easy to find in stock.
Sure maybe Spyderco made a bunch of them and they're flying off the shelves. However the general consensus on here and other forums is it's overpriced for what you're getting. IMHO that's why it's still in stock. I could be wrong though.
I personally think the size is perfect and is very comparable to a Para 2. I took some in-hand shots for you. I own about 15 Spyderco's and have to say this ranks at the top on quality and F&F. It is one of the smoothest knives I own and the ergos are great (the curved titanium scales really mold into my hand. It is not as ergonomic as the Para 2, but it has a much more refined feel. The stonewashed blade is deceiving because it is as smooth as glass and there are no rough spots on the knife (even the Spyderhole is smoothed out). THe pocket clip is my favorite Spyderco clip and the fact that it is stonewashed, makes it not show in the pocket hardly at all.
It is expensive, but this knife should last forever so I justified the price - I am happy with it. It does not matter to me what some of the haters think. Ti framelock knives are expensive especially ones with a designer. The reference to Michael Janich's comments are above showing the reasons for the cost. I personality think its worth it. I think this is a special knife in that it is simple and near perfect.
It is expensive, but this knife should last forever so I justified the price - I am happy with it. It does not matter to me what some of the haters think. Ti framelock knives are expensive especially ones with a designer. The reference to Michael Janich's comments are above showing the reasons for the cost. I personality think its worth it. I think this is a special knife in that it is simple and near perfect.
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