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Hey guys, I apologize in advance for the long post, but I want to provide as much info about my specific needs in order to prevent any redundant answers/info/suggestions that may be found in many other dust collection threads.
So I've been trying to decide which combination of cyclone and dust collector system to use for my grinder in my shop for a while now. I've refused to do any more grinding until I get one set up because it's just Soo dang cramped and already too dirty in my shop, (and yes, I do have a water bucket under my grinder). There's just so much stuff in there that 10 minutes of grinding can create an hours worth of clean up, and that's only the spots I can access. Literally EVERYTHING gets covered in dust, fast. I need to be able collect steel and micarta/G10/wood etc. dust. It seems to be a common problem and concern though regarding steel sparks cathing things on fire.
I know there are already a bunch of threads about dust collection systems and I've searched and read through a lot of them. I'm pretty overwhelmed regarding what to get due to my limitations, so I was just wondering if I could get some advice on a specific cyclone & dust collector system I'm looking at buying that "seem" like they'd work with my limitations.
First off, I just want to point out a few considerations (limitations) I need to work with. So, my shop is in a shed and it's not independantly wired. All power comes from an extension cord from my kitchen that comes out of one of the kitchen windows and then up through underneath the shed/shop floor, which then plungs into an outlet strip. The point of bringing this up this up is that my grinder uses a HF 1hp 110V motor that uses 13+ amps! So when looking at dust vacs/collectors, I needed to find something with lower amperage and also in the ~110 volt area, since I have no access to 220V.
Another consideration is space, or a big lack thereof, since two of the four walls have racks on them (that stick out 2 feet) filled with junk and random storage stuff that I can't move since a lot of it is my dads, and the other wall is the big door, it's a Tuff Shed. The other factor for chosing a system is the noise level. It doesn't have to be silent obviously, but my grinder is already a bit loud and I have an older (it's missing parts etc.) Ridgid shop vac that by itself ,for example is VERY harsh, and my shop is fairly close to the bedrooms in our house as well as our neighbors house, (nicest neighbors btw, God bless 'em.) FWIW, I've looked on youtube at noise insulation boxes for shop vacs but most look too big for my space, as a typical shop vac (like our Ridgid) would already be about the max size when having to also add a spark trap/cyclone bucket too. Also, just incase anybody might suggest it, I also can't vent to the outside or cut any holes in the walls.
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OK, so with all that info out of the way, what I'm considering buying is a dust deputy, and this Harbor Freight "portable" dust collector (see below). I was also planning on putting an inch or so of water in the 5 gallon bucket that the dust deputy attaches to ta help put out any sparks. There are just so many different set ups out there it's overwhelming, especially since I don't have any experience with them. But my space, power, and noise limitations make it even harder to choose a dust collection system, and of course my budget as well.
Also, before anybody suggests it, I do also plan on getting a box fan and facing it out the window (I used to have one but it died after a few years) and taping a furnace filter on the back side of it. The one thing my shop/shed has going for it is that is has two windows, one of them on one wall and the other on the opposite wall, so that helps with air flow with the fan facing out the window.
Please help me, lol. I have literally been at a grinding stand still since the beginning of July! I really need to get something worked out quick so I can start making knives again, and also finish the ones that family friends are waiting on.
So Here are pictures and links to what I was considering buying, what do you guys think?
First the dust deputy, I'm sure most guys have seen them:
http://www.amazon.com/Oneida-AXD000..._UL160_SR115,160_&refRID=0WSWWANVXX99VQ3KD83H
And then the dust collector that I would connect to the dust deputy:
What really interested me about this dust collector is that for one, it takes up very little space, it's "only" 7 amps and it's specs say it has ~10 times the suction of a typical shop vac. Plus it has good reviews, apart from some guys who've bought one to use "as" or in place of their shop vac. I'm also guessing it's a lot less noisy, at least compared to the Ridgid shop vac I have, but I could be wrong.
http://www.harborfreight.com/13-gallon-industrial-portable-dust-collector-31810.html
Anyway, I really appreciate anybody who took the time to read my long post, and appreciate any and all help.
~Paul
My YT Channel Lsubslimed
... (It's been quite a while since I've posted any new vids)
So I've been trying to decide which combination of cyclone and dust collector system to use for my grinder in my shop for a while now. I've refused to do any more grinding until I get one set up because it's just Soo dang cramped and already too dirty in my shop, (and yes, I do have a water bucket under my grinder). There's just so much stuff in there that 10 minutes of grinding can create an hours worth of clean up, and that's only the spots I can access. Literally EVERYTHING gets covered in dust, fast. I need to be able collect steel and micarta/G10/wood etc. dust. It seems to be a common problem and concern though regarding steel sparks cathing things on fire.
I know there are already a bunch of threads about dust collection systems and I've searched and read through a lot of them. I'm pretty overwhelmed regarding what to get due to my limitations, so I was just wondering if I could get some advice on a specific cyclone & dust collector system I'm looking at buying that "seem" like they'd work with my limitations.
First off, I just want to point out a few considerations (limitations) I need to work with. So, my shop is in a shed and it's not independantly wired. All power comes from an extension cord from my kitchen that comes out of one of the kitchen windows and then up through underneath the shed/shop floor, which then plungs into an outlet strip. The point of bringing this up this up is that my grinder uses a HF 1hp 110V motor that uses 13+ amps! So when looking at dust vacs/collectors, I needed to find something with lower amperage and also in the ~110 volt area, since I have no access to 220V.
Another consideration is space, or a big lack thereof, since two of the four walls have racks on them (that stick out 2 feet) filled with junk and random storage stuff that I can't move since a lot of it is my dads, and the other wall is the big door, it's a Tuff Shed. The other factor for chosing a system is the noise level. It doesn't have to be silent obviously, but my grinder is already a bit loud and I have an older (it's missing parts etc.) Ridgid shop vac that by itself ,for example is VERY harsh, and my shop is fairly close to the bedrooms in our house as well as our neighbors house, (nicest neighbors btw, God bless 'em.) FWIW, I've looked on youtube at noise insulation boxes for shop vacs but most look too big for my space, as a typical shop vac (like our Ridgid) would already be about the max size when having to also add a spark trap/cyclone bucket too. Also, just incase anybody might suggest it, I also can't vent to the outside or cut any holes in the walls.
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OK, so with all that info out of the way, what I'm considering buying is a dust deputy, and this Harbor Freight "portable" dust collector (see below). I was also planning on putting an inch or so of water in the 5 gallon bucket that the dust deputy attaches to ta help put out any sparks. There are just so many different set ups out there it's overwhelming, especially since I don't have any experience with them. But my space, power, and noise limitations make it even harder to choose a dust collection system, and of course my budget as well.
Also, before anybody suggests it, I do also plan on getting a box fan and facing it out the window (I used to have one but it died after a few years) and taping a furnace filter on the back side of it. The one thing my shop/shed has going for it is that is has two windows, one of them on one wall and the other on the opposite wall, so that helps with air flow with the fan facing out the window.
Please help me, lol. I have literally been at a grinding stand still since the beginning of July! I really need to get something worked out quick so I can start making knives again, and also finish the ones that family friends are waiting on.
So Here are pictures and links to what I was considering buying, what do you guys think?
First the dust deputy, I'm sure most guys have seen them:
http://www.amazon.com/Oneida-AXD000..._UL160_SR115,160_&refRID=0WSWWANVXX99VQ3KD83H
And then the dust collector that I would connect to the dust deputy:
What really interested me about this dust collector is that for one, it takes up very little space, it's "only" 7 amps and it's specs say it has ~10 times the suction of a typical shop vac. Plus it has good reviews, apart from some guys who've bought one to use "as" or in place of their shop vac. I'm also guessing it's a lot less noisy, at least compared to the Ridgid shop vac I have, but I could be wrong.
http://www.harborfreight.com/13-gallon-industrial-portable-dust-collector-31810.html
Anyway, I really appreciate anybody who took the time to read my long post, and appreciate any and all help.
~Paul
My YT Channel Lsubslimed
... (It's been quite a while since I've posted any new vids)
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) that vid the other day in the hammer & tongs subforum. Looks great, but I just can't have that much noise unfortunately, shop vacs are sooo loud, at least the one that I have, and also in my small shop. :thumbdn:
The main reason being because the wet dry vac I'm looking at buying is about $350! And I would want to make it last, which the dust deputy would help with normally, but I'm just not sure how it all (suction etc.) would work hooked up to a spark bong as well.