Solomon's Seal versus False Solomon's Seal

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I was out taking photos for my database, and for a blog post on plant lore and the need to be aware of any look-alikes when foraging. I chose, because of the availability and ease of use, to go with Solomon's Seal and False Solomon's Seal for that discussion. I never now which photos I am going to like best for blog posts, so I always take more than I need just to make sure I have what I need to illustrate what I am trying to say with the text. I have a pretty extensive series of photos on these two plants in my data base, and borrowed a few of those for this post, but then realized I had the making of a decent post on Solomon's Seal versus False Solomon's Seal, Fiddleback Forge style. So I thought I should post that up here.

Both are in the same plant family, Asparagaceae. Both have been used as food sources in different ways by different cultures in different countries, though I have only ever had the shoots of the Solomon's Seal as a food. Both have been used medicinally to treat different ailments. I am not qualified to teach the uses, but I think I can help people who have researched their uses, positively identify them, and distinguish between the two. The two plants do have some similarities, but they also have some very distinct differences that make it easy to tell one from the other.

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The first photo is a mature Solomon's Seal plant, and the second is a mature False Solomon's Seal plant. You can see some of the similarities and differences. They have similar appearing leaves, and they both grow in an arch, but there are differences in the size and shape of the leaves, and in where the fruit is produced.

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Solomon's Seal shoots come out of the ground in a tight bud. The leaves grow telescopically from this bud, and the flower stems unfold with the leaves as they grow, and hang below the stem of the plant at the bases of the leaves. Even in the early stages of growth the flowers stand out in a light at night. The flowers grow, get pollinated by bees and possibly other insects. Then the flowers become green berries, which in time turn a dark blue-ish green. The Solomon's Seal plants here typically lose their berries long before they lose their leaves.

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The False Solomon's Seal grows one leaf at a time from the end of the shoot as it grows. The flower is produced at the very end of the stem when it has grown to its full length. The flower is pollinated by various insects, and the berries are produced there at the tip of the plant. They start off as spotted green berries, but in time turn mostly pink and then red. The False Solomon's Seal tends to lose its leaves long before it loses its berries.

In the second photo in this series you can see both at the same time, with the False Solomon's Seal on the far left of the shot.

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To get to the rhizome it's best to have something to did with. For this I used a small section of seasoned bamboo, a leftover from another project I am working on. I have been enjoying using and testing the 3/32 A2 Tool Steel. The Gaucho is really light and nimble to use. The thin sharp blade encounters less resistance in cutting than the thicker blades I have. It's great paired with a heavier tool for rougher uses, and made quick work of cutting the seasoned bamboo. Making a digging stick is another are where the ring-and-break technique comes in handy, even with bamboo. I also love the fine point of the Gaucho for fine work. By making the “bowl” at a joint in the bamboo, and cutting the whole top out of it, makes it easier to get the dirt back out. For digging up roots and tubers, I suggest blunting the end of the digging stick so you can feel the root, rather that just cut through it before you even see it.

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To get to the rhizomes, you clear the debris away from the base of the stem, and slowly and carefully remove the dirt until you can see the rhizome and the direction it is traveling. Wiggling the stem gently as you dig will help determine the direction the rhizome is running.

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The rhizomes themselves have other distinct differences in shape, color, and texture that helps o distinguish the two plants. As do the lower stems, if you remember King Solomon, and that the colors blue and purple have commonly been associated with royalty.

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So here are the parts of both plats, False Solomon's Seal on the upper left, and actual Solomon's Seal on the lower right. I think that every important distinction between the two is illustrated by this photo. As I said, I do not feel qualified to tell you how to use these plants correctly, so I won't because I don't want the liability if someone has an allergic reaction to one of them. I share this information because others like to experiment with plant lore as much as I do. And since one rhizome has been used as an edible starch (much like a potato), and the other has allegedly been used in the past as a laxative, being able to distinguish between the two might be a good idea should you decide to experiment during a survival situation :D

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Excellent thread. I'll ask my herbalist girlfriend about uses and respond.

Lots of uses for both plants actually, both medicinal and as food from all of my studies. I am just unwilling to take the legal liability of making suggestions with their being so many food allergies out there. I do, however, like the idea of making positive identification of various plants in the woods easier to do, because I hated the old black and white plant ID pictures. Too much room for error. So I have spent the last five years compiling a database of plant photos in various stages throughout the entire growing season. These photos are much abbreviated versions of these sections in the database I use for slideshows.


Good stuff Brian. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you Bob, glad you liked the post.
 
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I had forgotten to mention the blue and purple color of the lower stem of the Solomon's Seal, and how that can help with identification, so I edited that in.
 
Man, that was super helpful. I can definitely find those now. Thanks Brian.
 
From what I have read in my research, my Cherokee ancestors from this area used the rhizome Polygonatum biflorum, or Smooth Solomon's Seal, quite a bit as a starch-rich food like a potato and used it in soups. That is something I will be experimenting with soon. I am also transplanting some here at home to study the cultivation and differences when grown in tilled earth. It is also said that they used it to make breads, and that I am going to study more. From all I have read, it is one of the most useful wild plants in the woods here.
 
I think you should have a different post every week for different medicinal and native plants like this. I would read it. Just choose a different knife to highlight and then it will be Fiddleback oriented!

I completely concur with you regarding liability and food allergy cautions.

I will say that I credit my herbalist friend for saving my life once when I had such a severe pneumonia from swine flu that the doctors told me I had three days to live. She came over and made me drink something that tasted like cat piss every hour. Created all sorts of tinctures etc and forced them down my throat. Within 48 hours all the coughing has stopped and within a week I was on my feet and doing great.

It's an ancient knowledge that I wish I knew more about.

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I think you should have a different post every week for different medicinal and native plants like this. I would read it. Just choose a different knife to highlight and then it will be Fiddleback oriented!

I love that idea, and I have already started on something similar. The problem is that I would need to hang onto like two dozen different Fiddlebacks for two entire growing seasons at least to get all the photos I would need with my work schedule. Maybe some day I will be able to afford to do that :)
 
I love that idea, and I have already started on something similar. The problem is that I would need to hang onto like two dozen different Fiddlebacks for two entire growing seasons at least to get all the photos I would need with my work schedule. Maybe some day I will be able to afford to do that :)
Get creative:

A). Do a go fund me campaign!

B). Ask for donations from forum friends. Once writing season using one knife is over, do either a GAW using list of donors or auction (money going to a good cause and not new knife, unless raising money for "first" knife was a one-off event, auctions cover most or all of any future knife.

I'm sure others could come up with ideas too.

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I think you should have a different post every week for different medicinal and native plants like this. I would read it. Just choose a different knife to highlight and then it will be Fiddleback oriented!

Get creative:

A). Do a go fund me campaign!

B). Ask for donations from forum friends. Once writing season using one knife is over, do either a GAW using list of donors or auction (money going to a good cause and not new knife, unless raising money for "first" knife was a one-off event, auctions cover most or all of any future knife.

I'm sure others could come up with ideas too.

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Actually, I think I am going to go about it the same way I went about my original database, and create a whole new database....though borrowing some shots from the database that I already have and use for workshops and lectures. It is currently at just over 2K files but needs to be whittled down a little more. Some photos are redundant. I will pick one Fiddleback Forge knife, and make it a dedicated fauna / flora studies knife specific this forum. I will post post brief summaries of those plant series here in threads at different times throughout the year, and then compile the whole thing on discs and sell copies of it to anyone interested. Purely for positive identification purposes only. Research and experiments with the plants will be at the sole discretion and responsibility of the experimenter.

If any of you guys like that idea, then you should all just pitch in and buy me the Bocote Bushraptor from this past Friday, because that is what I would want to use for it :D
 
Hahahahaha

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LOL, in all seriousness, I am trying to raise the funds for it with other sales now, and honestly just for this purpose. I have tried every color handle so far and so far natural canvas is the least distracting from the plant photo, and bocote is the closest in wood I have seen to that color, but would be nice in the shots where I do want the knife to pop as well. The pitching in and buying it was just a tongue in cheek statement for laughs, but I am going to take everything I have learned in the last five years of compiling this data base and repeat it all with one Fiddleback knife. And all things considered the Bushraptor is the model I want, and bocote is the handle I want. Now to see how long it takes me to land the knife...
 
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