soluble oil (cutting fluid) and water as quenching fluid

[boilermaker]

G'day all, has anyone tried soluble oil mixed with water as a quenching fluid? given the previous posts regarding water/brine quenching, i was thinking that maybe this combination may offer a viable alternative to water and comercial oils, which as stated in other posts can be hard for some to obtain? would the oil disolved in the water reduce the severity of just a straight water or brine quench whilst also supplying some of the benefits of oil quenching (reduced warpage etc.)? just putting the idea out there as mybe it might be worth investigating? cheers :thumbup:

 

[R.C.Reichert]

Hmmm... Sounds like a good one to try. Maybe someone can experiment with some 1095?

 

[Nebulae]

I dont know good question, but one could also use a non soluable regular oil say a thick cold motor oil, and a fast brin quench in the same tank oil on top brine on bottom, too either differentially quench, or be able to quickly and easily adjust quenching speed by moving from brine to oil if nescasary, or almost like an interupted quench.

however this is probably too much effort for a non-practical solution to an almost non existant problem

 

[Sam Salvati]

I dont know good question, but one could also use a non soluable regular oil say a thick cold motor oil, and a fast brin quench in the same tank oil on top brine on bottom, too either differentially quench, or be able to quickly and easily adjust quenching speed by moving from brine to oil if nescasary, or almost like an interupted quench.

however this is probably too much effort for a non-practical solution to an almost non existant problem

So you would, contrary to how steel needs to be quenched, want it to be cooled slowly in the oil first floating on top then into fast brine/water to finish?

Hot steel into cutting fluid UGH it stinks bad enough already

 

[LRB]

I would wonder at how much cooling the floating oil acually does since the 1095 needs to cool within a second. When the blade goes through the oil, would not the oils vapor jacket prevent any appreciable cooling before the blade enters the water? Just a thought, but it would seem that there would be no acuall contact with the oil because of the vapor jacket.

 

[69_knives]

I think JT experimented a little bit with it if I recall. Not sure what the results were.

 

[JasonSCarter]

I dont know good question, but one could also use a non soluable regular oil say a thick cold motor oil, and a fast brin quench in the same tank oil on top brine on bottom, too either differentially quench, or be able to quickly and easily adjust quenching speed by moving from brine to oil if nescasary, or almost like an interupted quench.

however this is probably too much effort for a non-practical solution to an almost non existant problem

Pretty Sure one of the old timers recommended this set up... mayby Bob Engnath maybe?
just checked his website and couldnt find it so nope proabbly wasnt him...