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Southard blade finish???

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Rusty_shackelford, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. colin.p

    colin.p

    510
    Feb 4, 2017
    Added a poor picture
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  2. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    833
    Oct 16, 2018
    Guess I should be glad that I just have a black DLC Southard. Don't have a Slysz Bowie but will have to check to see if my Positron has a similar finish.
     
  3. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    The Techno 1 had a similar finish but the Southard had a much higher almost glassy polish.
     
  4. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    Thanks for the info.
     
  5. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    Looks similar

    Is the positron made in Taichung?
     
  6. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
  7. colin.p

    colin.p

    510
    Feb 4, 2017
    Indeed it is.
     
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  8. Sharp Guy

    Sharp Guy Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 6, 2016
    Yes, I bought it from one of the bigger dealers when they were closing them out.
     
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  9. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    Thanks.
    Good to know.
     
  10. lieferung

    lieferung Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2016
    My Southard had that same polished stonewash. Similar to my Techno. I figured that was deliberate because a straight stonewash is not Spyderco's thing. I'd be wady of the one with matte finish.
     
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  11. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    833
    Oct 16, 2018
    I took a look at my Positron and Hanan and they both have a high polished blade over a dull gray finish like the Southard next to the Hop Orange can in the photo above. I wouldn't call the underlying finish "stonewashed" but I can see how you might call it that.

    Both of these knives were designed by Southard and made in Taiwan. I only have a black DLC Southard, so I can't make a comparison w/that model but it would not be surprising (but actually expected) that a G10 Southard would have a blade similar to the ones on the Positron and Hanan.

    So, Rusty: If you've got one of those other knives handy, compare it to your Southard to see if the blades match or not. If they do, your Southard should be authentic.

    BTW, of the other Spydercos that I've looked so far, only the Shaman (made in Golden) had a blade finish anything like the one on the Positron and Hanan; it had a similar gray "stonewashed" tone but wasn't has highly polished.
     
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  12. 4mer_FMF

    4mer_FMF Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    I’ve seen multiple pictures of Southards with a highly polished stonewash (similar to Rusty’s). The two that I own have a heavier, less reflective stonewash. As someone implied above, I was under the opinion that there was a change somewhere during the production runs.

    ETA, it’s also been established that there were some grind variations with the different runs, at least with regards to the ricasso.

    Rusty, those pics look legit. Nice knife.
     
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  13. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    A few minutes of "Flitzing" would significantly alter a stonewashed finish.
     
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  14. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    Thanks for the info
     
  15. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    Thanks man.
    I’m almost positive it is too.
    When a concern is brought up, you tend to doubt yourself a bit tho.
    Thanks for the help.
     
  16. evilgreg

    evilgreg Why so serious? Platinum Member

    Dec 25, 2012
    I've only handled two fake Southards, one that I bought to compare and the other that someone tried to sell me as real. I have neither, as I traded away the one I bought (to someone that wanted to try a blade mod out on, he knew it was a clone and he wanted it to experiment on) and the other I returned to the seller for a refund.

    Both looked very real until you looked quite closely, and both flipped great for what it's worth. Both had no flat section on the pivot screws, so if your has the flat side that's not proof, but a good sign, and similarly on the frame screws:

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    I don't have much from back then, but I have a few quick and dirty pictures that call out the obvious differences. The most obvious thing on both of the fakes I handled were the flat spots I showed above. The extra hole and little metal nubs are trickier, as some real Southards I've purchased were missing the scale nub thing (probably due to them falling out when disassembled) but I've bought a bunch of them second hand. The real blade finish is usually a shiny but not really shiny sort of stonewashed perfection, IMO.
     
  17. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    Thanks man.
    When I get it back I’ll take it apart and see what it looks like inside.
    The pictures are a big help.
    Appreciate it.
     
  18. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
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    @evilgreg

    seems to jive with your real southard.
     
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  19. evilgreg

    evilgreg Why so serious? Platinum Member

    Dec 25, 2012
    Yup, those photos don't show anything that jumps out at me as wrong at all.

    I tried to take some photos of Southard blade finishes before I hit the road this week, but the same blade looked totally different in each picture so I wasn't sure that any of them would make a good example really.
     
  20. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    There is significant variation amongst the edges too.

    My techno had a similar finish but the Southards had a higher polish over the stonewash.
     

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