SALTY
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Though the AD-10 is my favorite, the Recon 1 is a runaway favorite of knives that users EDC and EDC-ers use; it just works and works very well. My affection for knives began as a youth, mainly in hunting scenarios. The Buck 110 and 112 were the knives to get and my first 110, a squared edge model) that I foolishly broke batoning was repaired and refurbished by Buck; even with my full disclosure about how I broke it. My grandfather who gave me that knife is gone but that refurbished 110 lives on as a pampered Safe Queen. Back to clip points, the Buck 110, which has been used by just about everybody for just about everything is a clip point. It was called the "Folding Hunter" and my 110s (along with an old 119 - another clip point) have field dressed, skinned and butchered all manner of critters of various sizes and shapes in various North American locations. They're also great for cutting pepperoni and cheese back at camp and skewering pickles out of a jar ... more on that later. I've said all of that to say this: clip points have been and are a hunter's blade.
While the venerable RAT-1 is more of a drop point, and a faint one at that, it is included here to illustrate a sweeping edge towards the tip that is helpful when skinning.
As for the Recon 1, both the so-called spear point (I like the way Cold Steel does spearpoint on this knife) and the clip point have the identical blade profiles as it relates to the edge. The two pictures below show the Recon 1 spearpoint and clip point on top of each other ... with each taking turns being on top.
So, what is/are the difference(s) in these two great knives? In my not so scientific opinion, other than aesthetics, not much.
Yet some subtle differences beyond aesthetics exist which may be important depending on your mission profile for this knife. Firstly, the spearpoint appears to have a stronger tip. If you are doing things with your tip that require strength, the spearpoint would be preferable. Because, at least with the Recon 1 knives, the tips are about the same relative position to the pivot, only the spearpoint's symmetry contra the clip point may be important if drilling, making divots and other similar tasks. The weight of the blade would be concentrated more towards the tip on the spearpoint. That slightly more forward center of gravity may make a difference to some given that the TriAD lock and Cold Steel's handle designs do seem to place one's hands slightly further from the blade than some others. Weight times arm equals moment and a little bit of extra weight out forward could make more of a difference, albeit slight, than one may think. For some detailed/delicate tasks, that may be important to some.
While anymore I try to stick with fixed blades for field dressing, either or both of these Recon 1 knives would perform that task splendidly and in short order; however, I would prefer the clip point for skinning and the spearpoint for prying and popping bone joints apart if that were to be part of the process as the tip is stronger. On the other hand, if trying to get a pickle or Vienna sausage out of a jar, the finer point of the clip would be my choice. Then again if I had to open a can to get at something to stab and retrieve, I would use the spearpoint. The answer ultimately falls back on the consistent Blade Forums advice for just about all "which one" questions: get both!
Older threads can be a resource for discussions about things that are not in current discussion - though they may be nonetheless of current interest.
There's two older threads that I searched and found about this issue and rather than being accused of raising Lazarus from the dead (John 11:38-44) I thought I would post a new thread. Here's the older threads in case anyone is interested.
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While the venerable RAT-1 is more of a drop point, and a faint one at that, it is included here to illustrate a sweeping edge towards the tip that is helpful when skinning.
As for the Recon 1, both the so-called spear point (I like the way Cold Steel does spearpoint on this knife) and the clip point have the identical blade profiles as it relates to the edge. The two pictures below show the Recon 1 spearpoint and clip point on top of each other ... with each taking turns being on top.
So, what is/are the difference(s) in these two great knives? In my not so scientific opinion, other than aesthetics, not much.
Yet some subtle differences beyond aesthetics exist which may be important depending on your mission profile for this knife. Firstly, the spearpoint appears to have a stronger tip. If you are doing things with your tip that require strength, the spearpoint would be preferable. Because, at least with the Recon 1 knives, the tips are about the same relative position to the pivot, only the spearpoint's symmetry contra the clip point may be important if drilling, making divots and other similar tasks. The weight of the blade would be concentrated more towards the tip on the spearpoint. That slightly more forward center of gravity may make a difference to some given that the TriAD lock and Cold Steel's handle designs do seem to place one's hands slightly further from the blade than some others. Weight times arm equals moment and a little bit of extra weight out forward could make more of a difference, albeit slight, than one may think. For some detailed/delicate tasks, that may be important to some.
While anymore I try to stick with fixed blades for field dressing, either or both of these Recon 1 knives would perform that task splendidly and in short order; however, I would prefer the clip point for skinning and the spearpoint for prying and popping bone joints apart if that were to be part of the process as the tip is stronger. On the other hand, if trying to get a pickle or Vienna sausage out of a jar, the finer point of the clip would be my choice. Then again if I had to open a can to get at something to stab and retrieve, I would use the spearpoint. The answer ultimately falls back on the consistent Blade Forums advice for just about all "which one" questions: get both!
Older threads can be a resource for discussions about things that are not in current discussion - though they may be nonetheless of current interest.
There's two older threads that I searched and found about this issue and rather than being accused of raising Lazarus from the dead (John 11:38-44) I thought I would post a new thread. Here's the older threads in case anyone is interested.
Clip vs. Spear Point
Hello - I know this question has been asked about a million times all over the internet and in these forums - but I'm looking for a specific answer to a specific question that I haven't found an answer for. I've owned a Gerber Folding Sheath Knife (the Bear Grylls knife) for ~ two years now...
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Cold Steel Recon 1 (Clip vs Tanto vs Spear)
Hey guys, so I'm new to knives and for some reason, I have my eye set on the Cold Steel Recon 1 knives. Debating between either the Clip, Tanto or Spear and whether I should get a plain or combo edge (Don't want full serrated). Probably gonna be just for everyday carry or self-defense...
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