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Specs & Weights of Swamp Rat, Busse & Scrap Yard Knives

Discussion in 'Swamp Rat Knives' started by DWRW, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. phkk

    phkk

    34
    Jul 2, 2010
    Great list! I'll contribute what I can for the missing Busse stuff.
     
  2. azwelke

    azwelke azwelke.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 12, 2007
    Scrapyard 1111 weighs 21.5 oz
     
  3. azwelke

    azwelke azwelke.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 12, 2007
    2013 blade show satin SR101 Vex weighs 7.0 oz with G10's
     
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  4. tuica

    tuica Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2013
    Thanks to all who contributed here. I refer to my hard-copy version several times per week. Has really assisted in my increasing knowledge on Busse-kins...Cheers.
     
  5. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 2, 2008
    Been measuring my SYKCO Mudd Mutt:

    5.25" Blade + 5" Handle = 10.25" OAL
    Blade is 1.25" wide = ~0.53" flat + 0.68 primary bevel + 0.040 edge bevel (on average).
    Edge shoulder is 0.030" thick in the belly, 0.040 mid-sweep.

    EDIT - one of mine weighs 5.95oz, so 6 oz is a nice round estimate.
     
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2014
  6. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 2, 2008
    Rodent 4 weighed in at 8.71 oz
     
  7. Valeniiman

    Valeniiman

    206
    Nov 4, 2013
    Thanks for all of the information contained therein. Has really increased my knowledge on Busse and 'kin.
     
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  8. OnceBitten

    OnceBitten Gold Member Gold Member

    460
    Feb 11, 2011
    My Yard Keeper CG weighs 6.2 ounces.

    Full height flat grind


    Thanks for a great Thread!

    :encouragement:
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2015
  9. oge14

    oge14 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 14, 2007
    Bump...

    Need to add the battle grade.
     
  10. AZTimT

    AZTimT The Stripetition Finish Guy Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 15, 2009
    Per a request this evening I thought I would add this here:
    My bruiser BT6 measures as follows:
    11 3/4" OAL with a tip to handle blade length of 6 1/8" .215" thick at ricasso in front of handle.
    It is a nice saber flat primary grind piece of INFI that weighs in at 16.3 oz with G10 handles.

    This thread could use a lot of updating!
     
  11. TRog

    TRog Gold Member Gold Member

    521
    Feb 13, 2012
    ^yes exactly what Tim said. The OP needs a total overhaul and needs some major updating bad!
     
  12. elof_alv

    elof_alv Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 13, 2009
    OP was doing community service starting this thread... his/hers last post was just a week short of a year ago, so I'd take it easy
     
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  13. TRog

    TRog Gold Member Gold Member

    521
    Feb 13, 2012
    Your absolutly right elof. Who knows if DWRW is even still around and i thank him so much for taking the time and effort to put this thread together but with this thread being a sticky i, and hundreds of other members, would hope that several super mods could join forces like Voltron and revamp this baby. Fingers crossed is all i can hope for.
     
  14. bikerector

    bikerector Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 16, 2016
    *I'm just cleaning this up some since it looks like the formatting took a hit when the new website launched or something. I'm not changing any numbers here just getting rid of the extra figures that are showing up, specifically the "&#8221"*. I took out some busse content since I am limited in characters.

    -bikerector

    The following list is for reference purposes.

    *** Please keep in mind some specs can and do sometimes vary a bit from knife to knife. Sometimes the same knife is released at different times with slightly different grinds, thickness or handle materials. I have tried to specify significant variations in grinds such as "Full Flat" vs. Saber grind - when and where relevant. But, even with essentially same grinds and "visible" appearance, weights can vary.

    Typically, Busse and kin lengths per knife are VERY close and consistent. Most knife weights with same grinds and handle options are pretty consistent, but weights are more prone to variance than dimensions.

    G10 is known to weigh more than micarta. Hand shaped scales, magnum scales and similar scale variations from Busse can cause weight variences, along with "Variant" grinds, etc.

    Blade lengths are measured from end of handle material to blade tip.

    Res-C handles typically have less handle material forward of the grip than micarta/G10 scales. So, handle shapes and sizes forward of the grip area affect measurements of "Reach" of the blade from the grip.

    (SY) = Scrap Yard

    Busse knives listed at bottom.


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    Folder

    Rat Trap Folder (S30V) = 4.375 oz; .1875;; 3.9; blade; 9; oal



    Skeletons:

    RIP (Rat Ice Pick) (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .1875"; 8" oal

    Rat Tail (SR101) = 3.2 oz; .1875; 3.75; blade; 7.75; oal

    Rat Shaker (SR101).. = ??? oz; .25; 2.5 blade; 5 oal
    Rat Shaker II (SR101) = ??? oz; .25; 2.5 blade; 5 oal

    Swamp Rat Warden 2007 (SR101) = 2.6 oz; .185" - .1875"; 3.0 blade; 7 oal
    Swamp Rat Warden 2010 (SR101) = 2.2 oz; .135" - .15"; 3.0 blade; 7 oal

    (SY) Scrapivore CG (SR101)(58-60 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125; 2.75 blade; 6.5 oal
    (SY) Scrapivore LE (SR101)(62-64 RC) = 1.8 oz; .125; 2.75 blade; 6.5 oal

    (SY) Dog Booty (Sandvik 12C27 - 58-60 Rc) = ? oz; .175"; 3.5" blade; 7.25" oal




    Mudders:

    Bog Dog (D2)... = 4.65 oz; .14"; 4.75" blade; 9.56" oal
    Bog Dog (SR101)= 4.9 oz; .15"; 4.75 blade; 9.56 oal

    (SY) SS4 (INFI).... = 5.4 oz; .2"; 4.25" blade; 9" oal
    (SY) S5CG (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .185; 5.125 blade; 10.0625 oal
    (SY) S5LE (INFI) = 6.6 oz; .169; 5.125 blade; 10.0625 oal

    (SY) Mud Puppy (LE) (154CM) = 5 oz; .185; 3.25 blade; 8.25 oal
    (SY) ScrapMuk (154CM) = 6 oz; .1875; 4.5 blade; 9.125 oal
    (SY) Bird Dog (LE) (154CM).. = 3.95 oz; .125; 4.5 blade; 9.5 oal
    (SY) Wiener Dog (154CM) = 3.80 oz; .125; 3.75 blade; 8.75 oal



    Small Res-C handled knives:

    (SY) Scrap Max 340 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.30 - 3.4 oz.; 0.095"; 3.375" blade; 8.25 oal"
    (SY) Scrap Max 460 (ELMAX) (60-62 Rc) = 3.25 - 3.45 oz.; 0.095"; 4.5" - 4.6"; 9.1875" - 9.4"

    Bandicoot (SR101) = 5.25 oz; .1875; 4.5 blade; 9 oal

    Howler - 2nd gen (SR101) = 6 oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

    (SY) Yard Keeper LE (SR77) = 7.5 oz; .268"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal
    (SY) Yard Keeper CG (SR77) = ? oz; .1875"; 4.5" blade; 9" oal

    (SY) Dumpster Mutt CG (SR77) (Saber - small handle) = 9 oz; .27"; 5.25" blade; 9.75" oal
    (SY) Dumpster Mutt LE (SR77) (full flat - small handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal
    (SY) Dumpster Mutt DC (SR77) (full flat - larger handle) = 7.7 oz; .25"; 5" blade; 9.5" oal

    (SY) 311 (SR101) = 5.0 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8" oal
    (SY) 511 (SR101) = 6.75 oz; .1875"; 5.5" blade; 10" oal

    (SY) War Dog (INFI) (Full Height flat - satin) = 6.2 oz; .235"; 5" blade, 9.75" oal


    Small - Medium micarta/G10 handled knives:

    Rodent 3 (SR101) = ? oz; .1875"; 3"; 6.875"

    Vexillarius (Linen) (D2) = 5.25 oz; .14; 3.75 blade (from front of choil); 8.25 oal

    Rodent Solution (SR101) = 6.4 oz; .1875"; 3.5" blade; 8.125" oal

    Rat Hunter (SR101) = 7.5 oz; .1875; 4 blade; 8.25 oal
    Safari Skinner (D2).. = 6.75 oz; .125; 3.75 blade; 8.75 oal
    SAR Rat (SR101) = 10.2 oz; .25; 4.5 blade; 9.5 oal

    HCLE 3.5" blade Reg. Release (G10) (154CM) = 6.4 oz; .17; 3.5 blade; 8.25 oal
    HCLE 3.5 blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.25 oz; .17; 3.5 blade; 8.25 oal
    HCLE 4.0 blade (2008 SE micarta) (154CM) = 6.5 oz; .17; 4.0 blade; 8.75 oal
    HCLE 4.0 blade (2010 G10) (154CM)......... = 6.7 oz; .17; 4.0 blade; 8.69 oal

    Dog Skinner (black micarta) (D2).. = 7.25 oz; .15; 4.25 blade; 9.4375 oal
    Dog Skinner (2-tone micarta) (D2) = 7.5 oz; .15; 4.25 blade; 9.4375 oal

    HRLM (micarta) (SR101) = 9 oz; .19"; 4.13" blade; 9.3" oal

    Rodent 4 (SR101) = ? oz, .1875"; 4.625" blade; 9.5" oal

    Desert Jack (micarta) (SR101) = 10 oz; .175; 6 blade; 11.25 oal

    Ratmandu (G10) (SR101)..... = 11 oz; .189"; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal
    Ratmandu (micarta) (SR101) = 9.4 - 10 oz; thickness varies over the years - reports of: .173", .189", .2" thick; 5.3125" blade; 10.5" oal

    RatManDeaux (RMDx LE) (Black Paper micarta) (SR101) (FULL Height Convex grind) = 12.2 oz; "approx." .1875"; 6 blade; 11.25 oal

    M6 (SR-101)(micarta) = 16.2 oz; .235"; 6" blade; 11.68" oal

    Rodent 6 (SR-101) - (Convex/Saber) = ? oz; .25"; 6.375" blade; 11.75" oal

    Mini Mojo (SR101) (blade catch) (micarta) = 17.6 oz; .245; 6.875 blade; 12.625 oal
    Mini Uncle Mojo (SR101) (No blade catch) (micarta) = 17.3 oz; .245; 6.875 blade; 12.625 oal



    Larger Res-C Handled knives:

    (SY) Scrapper 6 LE (SR77) = 12.7 oz; .268"; 6.25" blade; 11.44" oal

    Camp Tramp (SR101-Diff.TempLine) = 14.4 oz; .24"; 7.325" blade; 12.5" oal
    (SY) 711 (SR101-ThroughHard)..... = 14.6 oz; .25"; 7.375" blade; 12.5" oal

    (SY) Yard Guard (SR77) = 16 oz; .277"; 7.25" blade; 12.4" oal

    (SY) SODCG (SR77) = 15.7 oz; .264"; 7.5 blade; 12.5 oal
    (SY) SODLE (SR77) = 13.85 oz; .25; 7.5 blade; 12.5 oal

    (SY) Regulator TT (Test Team - Full Flat) (SR101).... = 14.65 oz; .333; 7.5 blade; 13 oal
    (SY) Regulator MO (Military overrun - Saber) (SR101) = 15.8 oz; .333; 7.5 blade; 13 oal
    (SY) De-Regulator (Saber -single quillion) (SR101) = 15.8 oz; .333; 7.5 blade; 13 oal
    (SY) Regulator Mil Overrun 6.5 (full flat - Modified tip) = 13.6 oz; .333; 6.5 blade; 12 oal

    Battle Rat (SR101) = 16.5 oz; .24; 9.375 blade; 14.4375 oal
    Battle Rat (Satin) (SR101) = 15 oz; .23; 9.375 blade; 14.4375 oal
    Battle Guard (SR101)....... = 16.2 oz; .24"; 9.375 blade; 14.4375 oal

    (SY) 911 (SR101) = ? oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 14.5" oal

    (SY) Dog Father CG (SR77) = 20.1 oz; .275; 10 blade; 15.125 oal
    (SY) Dog Father LE (SR77) = 17 oz; .25; 10.0625 blade; 15.125 oal

    (SY) 1311 (SR101) = 18.8 oz.; .1875"; 13.5"; 18.25" oal


    Larger micarta/G10 handled knives:

    Taz Rat (micarta) (SR101) = 16.7 oz; .22"; 7.375" blade; 12.9375" oal

    Ratweiler (micarta) (SR101) = 19.8 oz; .25; 7.5 blade; 13 oal

    Chopweiler - (micarta) (SR101) = 19.1 oz; .25; 7.5625 blade; 13.1875 oal
    Chopweiler (G10) (SR101) = 20.5 oz; .25; 7.5625 blade; 13.1875 oal

    M9LE (Full Flat - G10) (SR101) = 19.35 oz; .23; 9.125 blade; 14.875 oal
    M9CG (Saber Grind) (SR101).. = 20.8 oz; ???; 9.125 blade; 14.875 oal

    R9LE (aka: Rodent 9) = ? oz; ?" thick; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal
    R9CG (aka: Rodent 9) = 22.7 oz; .25"; 9.5" blade; 15.25" oal

    Rat Mastiff (micarta) (SR101) = 21.7 oz; .25; 9.75 blade; 15.375 oal

    Rat Daddy-LE (SR101) = 21.8 oz; .25; 10.5 blade; 16.25 oal
    Rat Daddy-CG (SR101) = 22 oz; .25; 10.5 blade; 16.25 oal



    Hatchets & Axes:

    Paul's Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25; 2.9375 blade; 9.25 oal
    A2T Ratchet (SR101) = 13 oz; .25; 2.9375 blade; 9.25 oal

    Crash Rat (SR77) = 29.8 oz; .25; 3.75 edge; 3.5 spike; 14.25 oal

    Kill Devil Sniper Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 22 oz; 3.125" edge; 7" head height; 3.128" spike; 15.5" oal
    Rattle Hawk (micarta) (SR101) = 26.5 oz; 3.5" head height; 3.5" spike; 17" oal



    Swords:

    Rodent Waki (G10) (SR101) = 33 oz; 0.195; 17.0 blade; 27.625 oal
    Rodent Waki (micarta) (SR101) = 31 oz; 0.195; 17.0 blade; 27.625 oal
    Rodent Rucki (SR101 58-60 RC) = 27 oz; 0.1875"; 15.25" blade; 23.25" oal

    (SY) Scrapizashi (SR77) = 29.2 oz; .19; 17.375 blade; 27.25 oal



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    Busse Knives for comparison:

    A good source for a much more complete list of "Busse" knife specs can be found at BusseCollector.com : http://www.bussecollector.com/catalog/

    Another good source for Busse knife info and specs at HogCult.com : http://hogcult.com/chart
     
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  15. Hard Knocks

    Hard Knocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    That's a good bit of work there sir. Well done.
     
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  16. bikerector

    bikerector Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 16, 2016
    Looking this over, I see a few missing, like the tallywhacker. Probably need to update this with the new AD6 and FFG RMD specs

    Any other new ones? I like having a place to reference this info when I'm shopping about for Busse kin in the exchange.
     

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