Applecider3
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The grey Damascus endura is a skip for me(thank god) too busy, the mythic z wear shaman is not...
I know this is just one person's voice but I really prefer this thread to be for information of upcoming Spydercos. There are other threads in this subforum for showcasing your new purchases of Spyderco knives.
Wow those look really slick. What dealer offers that? Is it true damascus?
Sportsman Supply Moteng is the distributor for the gray/black damascus knives as well. As for the damascus they are using, the Japan made Spyderco's tend to use what's called d.p.s. 15.Not sure on the distributor. Saw them on St. Nick's instagram for pre order. They said vg10, don't know if it is all vg10 or has a different laminate.
Don't think these have been mentioned yet? if so sorry for the dupe.
distributer exclusive gray/black zome/damascus Endura & Delica
Sportsman Supply Moteng is the distributor for the gray/black damascus knives as well. As for the damascus they are using, the Japan made Spyderco's tend to use what's called d.p.s. 15.
It's vg-10 core, then has 15 layers of damascus (not sure what the outer steel is for sure) around it. So 15 layers on one side, vg-10 in the middle(edge/core) 15 layers on the other side.
What steel is in the cladding doesn’t really matter if it’s a “knife” steel since it’s only a cladding and doesn’t extend to the edge. Only the VG-10 core is the edge. The cladding(s) put on the outside of steels like HAP40, SuperBlue, or V-Toku2 on Spyderco knives isn’t “knife” steel either but doesn’t matter as it doesn’t go to the edge.Half of the cladding layers aren't steel.
http://www.spydiewiki.com/index.php?title=D.P.S._15_Damascus This wiki says D.P.S. 15 is a hard, martensitic stainless layered with an 'anticorrosion nonferrous metal'. According to https://www.bladegallery.com/shopexd.asp?id=94427 that metal is nickel (not nickel steel, just nickel) and it further states that nickel is used because the nickel layers keep the carbon in the stainless from migrating through the bands of cladding, which would otherwise occur within seconds at forging temperature. Apparently helps the final etch really 'pop'.
The fact that everyone keeps their mouth shut about what the stainless component actually is, suggests it isn't a steel that's usually used in knives, and none of the other Takefu grades of stainless steel sound like the material that's layering with the nickel in DPS 15 cladding either. Probably a no name inexpensive stainless - which can do just fine for cladding steel, so it's not like I'm suggesting Spyderco or Takefu are being shady by not naming it. They just know how and when to put their best foot forward.
What steel is in the cladding doesn’t really matter if it’s a “knife” steel since it’s only a cladding and doesn’t extend to the edge. Only the VG-10 core is the edge. The cladding(s) put on the outside of steels like HAP40, SuperBlue, or V-Toku2 on Spyderco knives isn’t “knife” steel either but doesn’t matter as it doesn’t go to the edge.
Is the K390 Endura vaporware at this point?
Thanks RamZar ... I gave my Endura to a friend early summer thinking this would be out soonish. Been without for a while and it was a constant carry. Need one soon!
They’re a distributor. They sell to dealers.>Sportsman Supply Moteng is the distributor for the gray/black damascus knives as well.
Their website confuses me. It has a login ID and password section. But no way to create an account. Reading through the "becoming a customer" section, it wants you to list your business and website and it is free shipping on $1000 orders. So it appears to me they don't sell to consumers directly? (Looks like they are out of stock anyway.....)