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The OP supports cloners and thieves, his opinion is moot IMO.
Maybe he didn't know Ganzo were such thieves. I didn't know what Sanrenmu did either until I read about it in these forums.
The OP supports cloners and thieves, his opinion is moot IMO.
I believe it's disingenuous to accuse Sal Glesser of lying by claiming that he's offered materials costs as the sole reason for Spyderco's price increases. His own recent statements run contrary to that argument.
But neither do I buy the premise that Spyderco's knife prices are based entirely on manufacturing and other pragmatic factors, as Mr. Glesser's own statements counter that argument, as well.
Clearly, he views at least some of his knives as works of art. And it seems that he feels that aesthetics, creative processes, and other intangibles can (and should) affect the pricing of those pieces.
In recent years, Spyderco has priced most of its quality models out of my comfort level. (I don't shop much at the low-budget end, so I'm not interested in the Byrd or Chinese-made lines.) I don't think it's useful to compare Amazon pricing, since Spyderco doesn't sell through Amazon any longer.
So to demonstrate what I'm talking about, I'll use an apples-to-apples comparison from Cutlery Shoppe. This is the Military entry from a 2003 catalog.
This is what a Military is offered for today.
My salary did not increase by 94% in the past seventeen years; neither did the salaries of anyone I know. So no matter how you rationalize that price increase, I won't be buying a Military model casually these days because it's simply too high a percentage of my disposable income. Most other Spyderco knives are in the same category for me.
-Steve
P.S. - When did it become fashionable to post pictures of a knife from a brand you like in response to someone making an assertion with which you disagree? It's the Blade Forums equivalent of the four-year-old putting her fingers in her ears when she's told it's bedtime and responding with, "Nyah, nyah, nyah! I can't hear you!"
Took me awhile but I finally waded through this entire thread and I think I just might have figured it out...
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan isn’t just a normal troll.
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan is ACTUALLY a MOLE TROLL, sent by Sal Glesser himself, to falsely accuse Spyderco of shenanigans with the sole purpose of gathering support for Spyderco!
I’m starting to wonder if Ganzofan is even their real name...
Either way - mission accomplished!
SLUGWORTH!Took me awhile but I finally waded through this entire thread and I think I just might have figured it out...
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan isn’t just a normal troll.
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan is ACTUALLY a MOLE TROLL, sent by Sal Glesser himself, to falsely accuse Spyderco of shenanigans with the sole purpose of gathering support for Spyderco!
I’m starting to wonder if Ganzofan is even their real name...
Either way - mission accomplished!
Took me awhile but I finally waded through this entire thread and I think I just might have figured it out...
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan isn’t just a normal troll.
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan is ACTUALLY a MOLE TROLL, sent by Sal Glesser himself, to falsely accuse Spyderco of shenanigans with the sole purpose of gathering support for Spyderco!
I’m starting to wonder if Ganzofan is even their real name...
Either way - mission accomplished!
I just finished reading this thread and was thinking to myself "I guess I have to pick up another Spyderco knife, I haven't carried one in a few years" lolTook me awhile but I finally waded through this entire thread and I think I just might have figured it out...
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan isn’t just a normal troll.
Maybe - just maybe - Ganzofan is ACTUALLY a MOLE TROLL, sent by Sal Glesser himself, to falsely accuse Spyderco of shenanigans with the sole purpose of gathering support for Spyderco!
I’m starting to wonder if Ganzofan is even their real name...
Either way - mission accomplished!
I guess I am. Makes sense, I have a whole bunch. But you know what? If I thought they were too expensive, I would do something really novel.......... I would......... buy something else.Then I guess you are Spyderco's target audience.
-Steve
Cool story bro. With a name like Ganzofan...
Damn, there was a 440V Military? And for 90 bucks? Awesome deal indeed. Kinda wish there was a mid-tier VG-10 Military. That’d be pretty cool.That $99 price for a 440V Military really was a special deal. It’s not a fair comparison. In those days, certain retailers got special pricing on some models. What is neat is the 440V Spydercos, particularly the Military, Native and Starmate are now highly collectible, something that will never happen with a Ganzo.
At a gun show I had the opportunity to look at about 20 Ganzo models. Some designs sucked, some were OK, but none were a quality fit/finish equal to a Spyderco. I really wanted an auto Ganzo to see how it would perform but couldn’t find one good enough in design or build to buy. DHGate product is much better, but broke in a couple of days.
Let us just ignore him...