Spyderco smkw exclusive.

Yes it was. The moderator let the stomping go on and locked the thread, then posted more negative comments. They then assessed me 40 points for ‘sassin’ him by calling it a joke. So here we sit in tech support till the issue is addressed. It was 100% unprofessional on his part volunteer or not to let that go on, lock the thread then stomp himself without my ability to respond.
ive sent a message to the site owner to discuss the matter and hopefully will get a response. Ive received many messages texts, and emails from other members regarding what went on and they are all watching to see what the official BF response will be.
 
nautiquess said:
Yes it was. The moderator let the stomping go on and locked the thread, then posted more negative comments. They then assessed me 40 points for ‘sassin’ him by calling it a joke. So here we sit in tech support till the issue is addressed. It was 100% unprofessional on his part volunteer or not to let that go on, lock the thread then stomp himself without my ability to respond.
ive sent a message to the site owner to discuss the matter and hopefully will get a response. Ive received many messages texts, and emails from other members regarding what went on and they are all watching to see what the official BF response will be.
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I agree with you but must be clear, you took advantage of exchange system. I am a neutral type person and see faults on both sides. The moderator was not neutral choosing what rules to enforce. You are allowed to sell for any price you wish and most would bypass that thread. You took bait on a post and responded by breaking rules, politics. It should have been moderated prior to that though.
If you read around forum, you will learn there is a clique here that influences all moderation. You will not win this battle.
 
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You should be careful whining about the rules being enforced. You clearly stated in the original sales thread that your intention was flipping. Per the rules, as Boru pointed out to you, you need to purchase a Dealer membership:
Dealers are defined as anyone who purchases at wholesale pricing, or purchases items with the intent to resell (flipping).

You don’t seem to grasp the distaste members have for flipping. There have been many lengthy threads devoted to the subject. If you were to venture out of the sales forums (where almost 100% of your posts reside) you could read more about this. It seems to be a hard subject to understand for people who only come here to buy and sell.
 
scherf68 said:
I agree with you but must be clear, you took advantage of exchange system. I am a neutral type person and see faults on both sides. The moderator was not neutral choosing what rules to enforce. You are allowed to sell for any price you wish and most would bypass that thread. You took bait on a post and responded by breaking rules, politics. It should have been moderated prior to that though.
If you read around forum, you will learn there is a clique here that influences all moderation. You will not win this battle.
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How do I join this “clique” you speak of?
 
mb> said:
You should be careful whining about the rules being enforced. You clearly stated in the original sales thread that your intention was flipping. Per the rules, as Boru pointed out to you, you need to purchase a Dealer membership:
Dealers are defined as anyone who purchases at wholesale pricing, or purchases items with the intent to resell (flipping).

You don’t seem to grasp the distaste members have for flipping. There have been many lengthy threads devoted to the subject. If you were to venture out of the sales forums (where almost 100% of your posts reside) you could read more about this. It seems to be a hard subject to understand for people who only come here to buy and sell.
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Curious how you know what my intent was when i purchased the knife? Also maybe there is a distaste but how much should I have asked for the knife for it NOT to be flipping and who will make that decision? Do we maybe need a price police force here to determine what is flipping and what isn't?
Maybe you don't grasp that people use this site for different purposes and yes I predominately buy on this site. I'm a collector. That's what I'm here for. I enjoy knives and I have fun with the hobby. I enjoy the art of negotiating and I'm never insulted by any offer or question. I don't have a holier than now attitude about them. There are far more important things in life to me. I'm sorry my intentions do not live up to your standards.

In private messages I said i'm more than willing to purchase a dealer membership if that's what's required and there is a clear cut standard that will be fairly enforced across the site. I have no problem supporting this site, and I've enjoyed my time here, But lets get a standard out there then for how much profit is acceptable. Is it acceptable that someone sells a knife they purchased 10 years ago for $50 more than they purchased it for? How about $75 or is it $25? And what period of time needs to pass before its determined to be socially acceptable to make a certain level of profit? Just throwing these questions out there.

And while we're on enforcement of rules Where is the enforcement of #5 in this thread? Anyone of the multiple members that stomped on my thread while the moderator let this go on for hours get their accounts locked??? Why is it the rule I broke is the only one you care to comment on?

5. Do not post in a person's thread unless you have an implicit interest in buying the item. Posts like, "Nice knife!", "Why is the price so high/low?", "I wish I had funds" are not allowed. This means absolutely no commentary or feedback in someone's sales thread. Seriously, if you stomp on someone's ad, your account can and will be locked. The only exception to this is in the Knife Makers Market areas (if the maker/craftsman requests and welcomes feedback). Save questions and offers for email rather than cluttering the thread.


Just wondering. I'm all for rules when they're fairly enforced.
 
nautiquess nautiquess You either didn’t read or failed to comprehend my post. I know your intentions by your own words:
“I'm definitely flipping, if you're interested or have an offer please pm as per instructions.”

I focused on this one rule simply to point out the one you were ignoring. Equal enforcement is expected.

You’re asking a lot of good questions about defining flipping. That’s a start! ;)
 
Thanks mb>, I think this conversation is healthy and needed.

I am not ignoring anything. Anyone that purchases anything then sells it rapidly can be considered flipping by definition no matter what the intent was on purchase.

I considered it flipping and by definition you flip something if you acquire something then quickly sell it for profit. So technically anyone that makes a profit on a quick acquisition then sale is flipping by definition, and how many times does that happen daily on the exchange? Once again we're down to profit, time and social acceptance. Who's going to define it?

FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit.

So we have a lot of flippers here on BF. Technically making $1 profit makes it flipping. Thats all I'm saying. Sorry I'm the one to be honest about it.
 
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nautiquess said:
Thanks mb>, I think this conversation is healthy and needed.

I am not ignoring anything. Anyone that purchases anything then sells it rapidly can be considered flipping by definition no matter what the intent was on purchase.

I considered it flipping and by definition you flip something if acquire something then quickly sell it for profit. So technically anyone that makes a profit on a quick acquisition then sale is flipping by definition, and how many times does that happen daily on the exchange? Once again we're down to profit, time and social acceptance. Who's going to define it?

FROM WIKIPEDIA:
Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit.

So we have a lot of flippers here on BF. Technically making $1 profit makes it flipping. Thats all I'm saying. Sorry I'm the one to be honest about it.
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There you go, crying again.


Wanna dump $200 into something and turn around and sell it for a profit? Go to the damn stock market, that’s what it’s for. This is a community where people are enthusiastic about knives, and flipping them limits availability to collectors who will actually enjoy these knives. The price gets artificially inflated by people like you and when Joe Knifeuser comes along to buy that awesome limited edition that WAS $200 when new, it’s suddenly twice the price and is now just too much for his budget.

You know exactly what you are doing, and acting purposely stupid just proves your stupidity.
 
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OP would be well advised to read the rules of the site before posting in the future and bothering to learn how things operate prior to complaining.

Furthermore the people who posted in that thread criticizing were wrong as well. That doesn't change that the OP showed his ass.

Beware the monkey's paw.
 
nautiquess said:
I’m not hurt at all. Im
In this hobby for fun. That’s it. I’ve met wonderful people and forged Great relationships. (No pun intended) lol. I love negotiating and enjoy the banter. It’s not about money. The ones that know me know what my collection is worth. I simply listed something and sold it. That’s it. Nothing more nothing less. And the moderator locks the thread, then posts himself additional negative comments. Look at all the people apparently butt hurt by it. It’s a shame.
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Looks like the butthurt one is you, guy. You're the one who came in here and created a new thread to complain. I mean, what is this, Opposite's Day?
 
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So here’s what your moderators do for fair and open discussion. Lock the thread then post to it. Apparently can’t handle free debate.

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BNIB this is the one you'll receive SMKW EXCLUSIVE $old Shipped Paypal G&S or Venmo PM ONLY for offers/details. Thanks NO TRADES I reserve the right to sell to my choice. BLADEFORUM MEMBERS ONLY on this one. Membership has its privilege's
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The closing had nothing to do with debate, was because of the following.

Your little political rant.
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And for those of you socialists that think you should decide what’s “fair” and how much profit someone should make, instead of the market place, and think that profit is a sin, go join the socialist party if you haven’t already.
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Insulting the Spyderco collectors.
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But you spyderco snobs are victims of your own demise. They offer these “exclusive” and “limited run” knives that are nothing but handle and hardware transplants of the same old mediocre knives to create frenzy and you all fall victim.
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And posting the knife was sold for $235... I'll get back to this part.
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BTW……SOLD for $235
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And look what he deletes before he locks the thread

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I'm confused as to what you claim I deleted... I deleted nothing from that thread.

What you posted above would appear to be a private conversation between you and B brotherscinco ... good job on blacking out the name by the way.

Moderators cannot read private messages between members unless invited to the conversation or unless a particular post in the conversation is reported and then only the reported post can be viewed... deleting any portion of a PM is not an option.

Back to the for sale part... you posted in your thread that the knife sold for $235, however in your PM you claim the knife sold for $280 within 5 minutes of the listing. Your thread had been active for 3 minutes shy of 2 hours before I made my first post, by that time you had already made one Biden reference. Why didn't you mark the knife as sold and move on instead of adding to the shit stirring, maybe that's what you meant in your PM when you said "I did this intentionally".
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They then assessed me 40 points for ‘sassin’ him by calling it a joke.
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Another Moderator gave you points for saying I was a joke, not because you called it a joke, don't try and down play it.
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And while we're on enforcement of rules Where is the enforcement of #5 in this thread? Anyone of the multiple members that stomped on my thread while the moderator let this go on for hours get their accounts locked??? Why is it the rule I broke is the only one you care to comment on?
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You want to complain about the rules not being enforced on the thread stomping, you willfully engaged in that bullshit for 2 hours before I showed up and again, by reading your PM it would appear to be intentional on your part.

I let everyone slide on the rules violation in that thread, you included with your snide political references and insults... spare me that feigned innocent how you were wronged attitude, you're just as guilty for violating the rules as everyone else that posted in that thread.
 
I am going to buy up all the next Spyderco drops then come here and mark them up 150 percent.

And while I'm at it, I'll buy from other members here and then flip those knives at 150 percent markup back to you or eBay.

I hope you all don't mind!
 
scherf68 said:
I don’t like that this dude is a flipper but why did moderators allow people to post on his for sale thread? He can sell anything he wants for any price he wishes. Horrible moderation of rules. If he violated rules delete thread, why bypass another rule of discussions on for sale threads. Looks bad choosing which rules are enforced.
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Interesting that both brotherscinco and nautiquess both like this post. Same person or just a bromance?
 
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At any point, were the posts reported for violating the rules of the sales thread ?
Why wasn't the first two post reported in the sales thread ?
Why did the OP engage in the posts that were in violation of the rules and allow the thread stomping to even start ? Looks like the OP should have had the thread shut down for violation of the rules in a sales thread. But yet, some think the mod. is wrong for not coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.
FYI, nautiquess nautiquess , the fastest way to derail unnecessary post is to report them. I've seen it happen in the past, several uncalled for post in a sales thread and they get cleaned up once a mod. knows about it. Don't think you're in virgin territory with the pile on, it's happened before. If you didn't report any of the posts, you're more to blame than anyone else. The mod did his job
 
Ajack60 said:
At any point, were the posts reported for violating the rules of the sales thread ?
Why wasn't the first two post reported in the sales thread ?
Why did the OP engage in the posts that were in violation of the rules and allow the thread stomping to even start ? Looks like the OP should have had the thread shut down for violation of the rules in a sales thread. But yet, some think the mod. is wrong for not coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.
FYI, nautiquess nautiquess , the fastest way to derail unnecessary post is to report them. I've seen it happen in the past, several uncalled for post in a sales thread and they get cleaned up once a mod. knows about it. Don't think you're in virgin territory with the pile on, it's happened before. If you didn't report any of the posts, you're more to blame than anyone else. The mod did his job
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I did report the posts, about six of them after it went on, but in all fairness to the mod, not till after I engaged in the banter. Live and learn.
 
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