Stainless 12C27 Steel

Sebenza4ever

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Hi

What is this steel like? I know nothing about it. Its in a custom knife that I like.
Do you know about it?

Thanks
 
12C27 is an older steel alloy that is still in popular use today.

It's one of only a few steel alloys ever confected specifically for making blades. It is (or at least has been) very common for razor blades. As such, it is not surprising that it makes good knives.

It takes and retains a good edge and it's very rust-resistant.

It's not the next-phase, new-wave, dance-craze steel, but it's still got plenty of rock and roll left in it.

I certainly wouldn't snub a knife simply because the blade is 12C27.
 
12C27 is a Swedish steel and it's been used successfully in many knives. I have a couple of Laguioles in 12C27, which I prefer to the 4440A of other Laguioles. I also have a dagger in 12C27 that's held a really nice edge and is extremely strong.
 
I like it, it cuts like a razor. Sure the thin blade helps, but it holds an edge without being a pain to sharpen.

Frank
 
If I remember correctly, 12C27 is a particularly fine grained stainless, so it makes a great blade.
 
Which custom knife are you interested in, Sebenza4ever?

Sandvic 12C27 - Tool steel made in Sweden, Swedish steel has always been a premium steel for tools because the iron ore is very clean, that is to say it has very little Sulphur S or Phosphorus P in it. Carbon 0.6%, Manganese 0.35%, Chromium 14.0%.
- from AG Russell's knife encyclopedia
 
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Thomason

Thanks for the info.

Thomason, This is the knife I am thinking about. Its a stag lockback by P.J. Tomes. Its $550.00
. I love the looks and the finish seems perfect. What do you think guys?
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ARTIST: Master Smith P.J. Tomes
BLADE SIZE: 2 1/2"
TOTAL SIZE: 6"
BLADE MATERIAL: Stainless 12C27 Steel
HANDLE: Premium Stag
BOLSTERS: Stainless Steel
LINERS: Stainless Steel
WEIGHT: 1.8 oz.
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As an owner of a P.J. Tomes' knife, all I can say is that if P.J. likes it - I like it. Nothing about any of his knives is even close to second rate. Buy it quick, before someone else does.
 
The Bark River Mikro 2 is indeed 12C27. It polishes well, takes a very sharp edge and cuts beautifully. It is a high carbon stainless like (?)AT34.
Greg
 
P.J. Tomes makes many of his folders out of 12C27 I have owned one of his folders for many years now. P.J. knows how to make a fine folder, thin blades and very sharp.
 
12C27 is very common in Europe. Especially in France and Italy apart from Scandinavia of course where it is the most common high-end knife steel.

It's Sandviks allround knife steel. Good corrosion resistance, HRC 57-59 with microstructure similar to 13C26. Sandvik recommends this steel for hunting knifes and tactical knifes because of the good toughness.

It's comparable to 13C26 and AEB-L. It has higher corrosion resistance because of more Cr and higher toughness because of less carbon. It has slightly lower edge retention though.

Buy a 8$ Frost Mora (if there is anything blue on the knife it's the right one, like the blue clipper for instance) at Ragweed and abuse the hell of it for a reference.

I'm swedish and about half of my knifes are 12C27. Moras, customs, Opinel, EKAs. Imho, a great knife steel. I'd pick it over 154Cm, D2 and 440C any day of the week.
//Jay

Edit.
Longlostthinker:
It may look like a 440A on a steel composition chart, but it's VERY different in terms of performance. A 12C27 heat treated in a good way outperforms 440A any day. Steel seems to be more than just composition. In my opinion this AG Russel is not fair by comparing them. It's like saying a crappy chinese "copy-knife" is similar to a high end one just because they look similar at first glance.
 
I first had a blade of this steel when it came from Thinus Herbst in South Africa. Its a very good steel, good corrosion resistance and it takes a pretty good edge also. Seems to be fairly easy to bring back the edge on. I like Sandvik steels. Both 12C27 and 13C26 are favorites and I have been seeing some other Sandvik steels out lately also I may just have to try out. Like the 19C27 Sandvik stip steel in the Lone Wolf Paul Presto knife. http://www.agrussell.com/knives/pro..._knives_paul_presto_folder_ivory_micarta.html

STR
 
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