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Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Serenity, Jun 27, 2015.
Why does the image of a man in a kilt swinging an axe come to my mind....?
I lived in the bush for years with no electricity.
Never used the axe except to clear saplings.
Chainsaw and block splitter ....which I think is also called a maul.
Batonning with a blade is a great skill to have and know, in the event you find yourself in a situation where you need to use a knife to split wood...
Have an extra pair of shoes/clothes in your car is a great thing to have in the event you find yourself in a situation where you need to change into clean/dry clothes.
If I know I'm going to be gone for a few days then I'll appropriately pack more then just the one spare outfit I keep in the back of my truck, if I know i'm going to the woods and am going to be splitting logs, I'm bringing a small axe. (And if I'm splitting wood at home I'm using an axe or mail). If there wood to cut, like BBB above me, I'm using the chainsaw, or a saw period...
Can I chop and split and baton with my knife? Absolutely! I "can", just like big girls can wear yoga pants, but that doesn't mean I "should" if I don't have to. (I can also pry with my knife "if" I must, but I try to avoid that too.) I never did get the whole obsession with knife batonning outsidr of necessity just because you can, unless it's just one more excuse to use your knife, I mean, then I guess I get it? Sometime i cut the crust off my kids PB&J with my crkt c/k dragon; as for the batonning, personally, I'll save my knife(s) the added stress and extend it's lifespan by avoiding it unless it becomes a necessity, while continuing to bring an axe (and saw) with me for axe (and saw) related chores.
Except for in the desert.
My survival knife/bushcraft knives are divided in two bags for the truck and one one for my car so between them , I have a Barkriver Bushcrafter, Busse Boss Jack, ESSE-5, Fallkniven A1 and a Randall RTAK II.
I also have in the both either a Gransfor Bruks axe, EKA Folding saw and a Silky BigBoy
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I have been playing around with this one for a little while now. I'm liking it.
Some light testing,
My preferred survival/bushcraft knives I like to split up in pairs, my favorite is my Esee Laser Strike with my Falci Manaresso. others include Mora axe with mora companion 12c27 stainless, tops lite trekker with my falci manaresso or my schrade schf37m.
LOL That day that Ethan Becker himself responded to your survival bushcraft post! EXCELLENT Wednesday!!
Ethan knows a thing or three. He always carries a Vic SAK in addition to usually one of his knives.
Here's the short list of my favorite Survival/Bushcraft knives. Survive 5.1 and the 4.1 are at the top of my list for overall performance, comfort, and price. My Bark River Bravo 1LT is a great knife and my Bravo 1 in S35VN I've used as well. Lastly, the Swamprat Ratmandu is a excellent knife with it's SR101 steel. Downside is the coating which protects it from rust, but doesn't make it a good slicer. I have a Infidu, but haven't beaten on that one yet. I will usually bring one of those knives or from a list of other ones, along with a GB Wildlife Hatchet and a small pocket saw. However, if you told me I can only bring one knife for all tasks it would be the Survive 5.1 or 4.1
Freakin' EPIC review buddy! I really have no interest in buying a KA-BAR (love them for their history though...'merica) but I couldn't stop reading that thread. Good stuff, love the bushcraft. But no matter how hard I try I just can't get past the "rat-tail" tang on those KA-BARS. Seems like its working pretty darn good for you though.
Thanks for the kind words.
I am very pleased with the performance of this knife.
Preparing a quick one stick fire,
Everything ready to go,
Esee 4/SAK combo. I could craft just about anything with these 2 tools.
I have a folding saw that sees a lot of use outdoors, it's a Japanese-made "Samurai" wood saw, somewhat similar to the Bahco Laplander but a bit sturdier. It makes preparing wood for a fire or shelter much easier. I think every bushcrafter should invest in a decent saw, either a folding one or a bow saw (just bring the blade, make the bow out of a fresh, springy branch bent over a fire). As knives, I usually have a BK9 (previously had an Ontario SP8 for chopping, batoning, digging and other heavy work but the BK9 replaced it quite easily) and a Mora Bushcraft, although sometimes I throw the BK24 in the kit as well. Got a little Marbles Bird and Trout blade (to be replaced with a Condor one soon) in the BK9's little pocket sheath (where the Remora is supposed to go), could be used to fashion a spear or an arrowhead in a pinch, also good for precise cuts and poking stuff. That and a SAK Huntsman or Leatherman Rebar (if going fishing cause of the pliers) in the BK9's pocket pretty much covers most situations. For a full assortment of tools I'd throw in a good axe too, but in my particular case it wouldn't see much use, right now I don't do long enough excursions to require an axe.
[edit: Here's a pic of the saw, with a home-made Kydex sheath with high-vis orange paracord so I don't lose the dang thing]
This is a knife and sheath setup I made for myself. It is 6.25 inch blade and 0.220 thick RC60zwear 12oz without the sheath. I can do almost anything with it. I have a ferro rod, plastic maganifyling glass, light and compass on the sheath. Compact package.
I have really put it thru some testing. For gear I have really good hardshell pants and jacket. I bought a pretty baller pack Arcteryx Arrakis 65 and can fit all my stuff in, in mutiple situations.
I carry a 24inch Bobs buck bowsaw 1.1lbs and also a leatherman. I have a 24inch cpm3v chopper coming back from PHT now for my final piece. I really only use a axe for splitting.
I made myself this zwear chopper this fall and also use it alot. Super chopper around camp. Hard maple to grass. I like choppers almost more then hatchets and small axes for 90% of stuff.
Snipped the pics to save space.
I don't have a "long term survival/bushcraft, etc" bag per se. What I have are:
Bush craft - normal 'woodsey' stuff I take in the field
INCH bag - I'm Never Coming Home bag.
My Bush craft bag is a 30L bag that has a metal cup, 100' of paracord, 3 types of fire starters+jute twine, a 10x12 waxed canvas tarp and a USMC KABAR. I also have 1 lb of salt; 5 pks Ramen noodles; 10 cliff bars; 5 Mountain House entrees, Lifestraw water filter; 3 Altoids tins...one with char material the others with misc items like fishing line/hooks, etc., Lensatic compass, 32 oz flask of 195 Everclear, 1st aid kit...and a few other things.
My INCH bag has all that but more tools, sleeping bag, fleece/winter items, E-tool, axe, ammo, firearm cleaning kit, 50' climbing rope, 3 rated carabiners and a figure 8, an ascender and some other items needed for never coming home.