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Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by ncrockclimb, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 29, 2010
    .....Thrive! to be correct... ;) :D
     
  2. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    I called back in the day when this ponzi scheme was relatively new and talked to Ellie herself about when my knife would ship. She lied to me on the phone on three separate phone calls. Just flat out lied.
     
  3. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    Ellie and Guy have been lying about a lot of stuff since the beginning. What shocks me is that there is a fan-base that is intimately familiar with how S!K operates and still actively shills for them.
     
  4. shinyedges

    shinyedges Unfaltering Love & Undeviating Will

    Jun 5, 2012
    I can't believe Millit got in bed with them... Just wow.
     
  5. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    Millit didn't just get into bed with them. Millit is actively promoting S!K on social media and talking about how great Guy and Ellie are. Millit is also becomes EXTREMELY defensive when comments are made about S!Ks business practices and the orders from 2015 that have yet to be filled.
     
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  6. shinyedges

    shinyedges Unfaltering Love & Undeviating Will

    Jun 5, 2012
    Wow, I don't hear about them outside of bladeforums so that is a first for me. Shame and scandal in the family.
     
  7. Dwight Doucet

    Dwight Doucet Gold Member Gold Member

    41
    Jul 31, 2015
    Has anyone had issues with millit knives lately? I was sent an invoice for a knife on January 18th and paid promptly. I asked how it was coming along at the beginning of February and was told that it was almost done and that it would be shipping that week. That was the last communication I have recieved.
     
  8. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    Seems some 5urvive! is rubbing off on Millit:rolleyes:
    Small wonder with the proximity and all.
     
  9. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Can you give more details like what knife it is?
     
  10. Dwight Doucet

    Dwight Doucet Gold Member Gold Member

    41
    Jul 31, 2015
    A torrent v3. I was trying to upload a image of the invoice and description but not sure how to
     
  11. Dwight Doucet

    Dwight Doucet Gold Member Gold Member

    41
    Jul 31, 2015
    I'm not trying to bash millit knives. I have been a customer of theirs for a few years and bought many knives from them I've always had great communication just lately it seems like things have changed and I was wondering if anyone else has had the same experiences
     
  12. Triton

    Triton Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Well, I guess they say if you lie down with dogs...
     
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  13. Macchina

    Macchina

    Apr 7, 2006
    I came here to write that I had a GSO-4.7 that I really liked but it sustained edge damage just from gutting and skinning a deer. The edge rolled in multiple places and when I sent the knife into Survive they said they didn't want to send it back and would send me a GSO-6 in a few months as a replacement (they didn't have any GSO-4.7 in stock). They actually reground and stress tested the knife and made it sound like they destroyed it so there was no hope of returning it anyway. It also rusted in several spots when used only once. I suspect the heat treat was way off but who knows...

    That was over a year ago and still just crickets. I think about it every few months and check to make sure Survive is still in business. I am OK with waiting I suppose but I would hate to have them go Belly up and have lost a knife to them when it was once already in my possession.
     
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  14. Hard Knocks

    Hard Knocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    I remember when that happened. I can't believe that hasn't been taken care of by now. Well wait, yes I can believe it and I don't know how any of their bullshit still surprises me. Forget the replacement and start ringing those phone lines until you get your money back. These people are terrible business people, and have either totally forgotten about you or think it's okay to make you continue to wait. Remember the guy with the LT Wright blade that posted in your thread? He damaged it, sent it back in, and had it back in his hands in like a week. If Survive had intended to make this right they would have already found a way to get it done.
     
  15. sharp thoughts

    sharp thoughts

    244
    Oct 24, 2000
    I suggest that you re-read what Hard Knocks said and do exactly what he said to do. The GSO-6 is still years away from being finished and/or shipped. Get a refund and invest it elsewhere asap!
     
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  16. sharp thoughts

    sharp thoughts

    244
    Oct 24, 2000
    Absolutely 100%
     
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  17. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I for one, am very glad that you decided to write this. By and large some of us past Survive! customers and forumites defended them and their business "viability" out of naiveté, self-interest, blind loyalty to our brethren and dare of say, a few, very few, being total shills for Survive! (I have privately discussed with you as to whom I suspect of being incentivized shills but then I'd digress...). Gush, I have even managed by my own past doing to taint my name on here because when the battle was raging hard I could not wrap my head around as to how S! was being accused of being a Ponzi scheme, i.e, taking/raking in new fraudulent investments in order to pay for the older investment commitments. In fact when I realized as to what was actually going on, I came to the conclusion that being a bunch of morons (not all criminals are smart) they were actually running a reverse-Ponzi scheme, i.e, having taken monies from the old investments to p*ss away and then to produce new knives which they were selling marked as Factory-2nds for no apparent and particular flaws in the said knives. The coin dropped too late with me I suppose because I was so blindly dogged on the notion of a U.S. created and based business's longevity so now we are where we are: I have made friends, enemies and frenemies. C'est la vie my friend ;)

    As for Machinna: follow what Dave (HK) has suggested and do not sit on your laurels! Badger Millit Knives if need be and must be to get what's due to you. Forget about that stupid GSO-6 which will probably never happen and go for your full refund. The 3V and the D3V which S! also uses is actually the propriety development of another maker on here (as to what, why and how these folks were ever mingled with S! is not going to be a subject of discussion based on speculations) but I will tell you that the way the and the details involved ion the final process of sharpening is absolutely crucial to how that edge holds up like it is supposed to. I very much doubt that the issue was from Peter's HT as I put the blame dead center on Guy's ability or rather inability to do anything according to the receipt / script.

    TL; DR: drill, badger and follow up relentlessly with Millit Knives and you let them know that they are and will be using customer because of their apparent take over of S!.

    P.S. I read somewhere on their IG response (Millit not S!) directed at one of Blade Forum's W&C dwellers that they have this "us against the world" attitude but ask them if is so, whether they can ever compensate for their long term reputation in lieu of some upfront revenue $tream. If they are convinced that they could, please remind them politely that Survive! miserably failed at that experiment!
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2019
  18. Triton

    Triton Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    That's a bizarre attitude for a company thats business is based upon selling high dollar non-essential products to a small niche market.
     
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  19. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    IIRC, I saw that comment when our own Spysmasher was making comments on a Survive! related post on Millit's IG account. I do recall a snarky remark to SS, something to the effect of keeping things on a positive vibe on their IG and negativity not being welcome (Millit's IG as S!'s own IG has disabled subscribers' comments). Then as I scrolled down that link that comment which I claim they had made burnt a vivid copy in my memory. FFIW, I've never had any desire in any of Millit's products (too blingy for my tastes) but I do peruse once in a while just for the sake of keeping up with their conjugal charade!
     
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  20. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Conjugal charade???? Priceless and stolen!!!
    :D
     
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