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Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame
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That's because he was anything but a poor kid who made a mistake. Any claim otherwise is clownballs. Dude would have been responsible for any harm caused by the people who bought those stolen guns from him. Guy is scum, and so is Ellie for attempting to portray him as golly gee, just an innocent kid who made just a little mistake. Coulda happened tah innywon Mister, holy cow.
The other situation as a former marine is that he was kicked out or discharged due to injury or hardship. There are lots of people that get hurt during basic training and if you are not in 6 months then they admin separation order will be given. The only other thing I can think of is ROTC and counted that as service but that is just a guess. The last thing is he did this while he was a Marine and they kicked him out due to the charges prior to the writing of this article. Who knows but I have known this company for 7 years and they have never been the greatest at anything.
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And short-sighted. Almost as short sighted as starting a knife company that doesn't produce knives.
He didn't rob a Vegas Casino. He got maybe what... max, 20k in stolen guns?
Can't stay in Margaritaville very long on a few stolen guns.
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I was greatly impressed by the originality and creativity involved in doing a robbery and heading to Mexico.....I mean that has just never been done before..... he was a thinker even then.
Can’t believe Guy and Ellie have still managed to keep this shit show rolling on.
If they spent less time and energy conjuring up a myriad of excuses, making multiple videos and newsletters about how “things are turning around”, pointing their finger at suppliers, responding to emails from disgruntled customers, processing refunds, switching orders, designing yet more models, etc.…..who knows what they could have achieved as a company
If they spent less time and energy conjuring up a myriad of excuses, making multiple videos and newsletters about how “things are turning around”, pointing their finger at suppliers, responding to emails from disgruntled customers, processing refunds, switching orders, designing yet more models, etc.…..who knows what they could have achieved as a company
Consider this... Every murderer, rapist, and burglar gun running thief gives themselves permission to do their crime... And yet we all believe in second chances.
But what about the non-repentant thief that goes on in life to invent new ways to scam people and yet justify it?
We call that person a sociopath. That's what we have here. a sociopath that is enabled by a scheme of gaslighting shills.
It's fascinating how the most evil people in history always posses a distorted image of themselves as as victims, or heroes.
You take money up front and gaslight people for six years, you lie and invent a dozen new "preorders" to steal even more money... you sir are an evil sociopath... full stop. Sure, not Manson level.. but Evil none the less.
Call it for what it is. And call it in the face of the shills that enable it, as they too are guilty.
But what about the non-repentant thief that goes on in life to invent new ways to scam people and yet justify it?
We call that person a sociopath. That's what we have here. a sociopath that is enabled by a scheme of gaslighting shills.
It's fascinating how the most evil people in history always posses a distorted image of themselves as as victims, or heroes.
You take money up front and gaslight people for six years, you lie and invent a dozen new "preorders" to steal even more money... you sir are an evil sociopath... full stop. Sure, not Manson level.. but Evil none the less.
Call it for what it is. And call it in the face of the shills that enable it, as they too are guilty.
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BTW... FYI,
Guy and his Betacuck buddies in his recent gaslighting youtube video are LIARS. The irony of them calling out BF is rich. I can Confirm, if you put ANYTHING negative, even in an honest respectful tone in his youtube, he shadowbans you.
So he only allows shills in his social medial including youtube and then LIES to the public about him being "open" to criticism.
Guy and his Betacuck buddies in his recent gaslighting youtube video are LIARS. The irony of them calling out BF is rich. I can Confirm, if you put ANYTHING negative, even in an honest respectful tone in his youtube, he shadowbans you.
So he only allows shills in his social medial including youtube and then LIES to the public about him being "open" to criticism.
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“There’s no such thing as bad press” … unless, of course, the news of the day indicates he’s suppressing bad press. That just means the bad stuff is probably true, and he’s a turd.
Their website says it all- the products are trying to drum up excitement by saying things like, “in production”, “preorder now”, and “in finishing”. He’ll even knock 20 bucks off the price if you hand him the money early!
There’s that classic adage, “Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick any two.”. With Survive knives it seems like you can only get “Good”, and honestly I’m straining to see what exactly is so exceptional about these compared to a myriad of other knives readily available out there at a similar price point. You know… knives that will be in your hand by the end of the week.
Just pondering for the sake of pondering at 3 am:
I see perfect score reviews (perfect, really?) that indicate these knives are flawless and have lots of attention to detail. If that’s true, I’m guessing these priced-to-compete knives probably don’t have the bang for the effort Guy was hoping for. Sounds like his model wasn’t sustainable, like maybe he was counting on things like materials at very limited cost thresholds. Then he got behind in orders which is the kiss of death, and now we’re all standing around watching the dumpster fire.
Their website says it all- the products are trying to drum up excitement by saying things like, “in production”, “preorder now”, and “in finishing”. He’ll even knock 20 bucks off the price if you hand him the money early!
There’s that classic adage, “Good, Fast, Cheap. Pick any two.”. With Survive knives it seems like you can only get “Good”, and honestly I’m straining to see what exactly is so exceptional about these compared to a myriad of other knives readily available out there at a similar price point. You know… knives that will be in your hand by the end of the week.
Just pondering for the sake of pondering at 3 am:
I see perfect score reviews (perfect, really?) that indicate these knives are flawless and have lots of attention to detail. If that’s true, I’m guessing these priced-to-compete knives probably don’t have the bang for the effort Guy was hoping for. Sounds like his model wasn’t sustainable, like maybe he was counting on things like materials at very limited cost thresholds. Then he got behind in orders which is the kiss of death, and now we’re all standing around watching the dumpster fire.
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I’d seem to me if everything was so explicit that it was just a starter no one would have anything to complain about.
and if it was truly a starter, why aren’t you taking care of your supporters from 2015 first?
At least he’s smart enough to know addressing BF is a losing proposition. If been in the corporate environment long enough to know that phrases like, “on a great trajectory and moving towards our goal” usually means your pants are on fire.
How about he just posts a freaking production rate? “We’re now able to make ___ knives a week.” … maybe with a picture of knives equating to that number…
and if it was truly a starter, why aren’t you taking care of your supporters from 2015 first?
At least he’s smart enough to know addressing BF is a losing proposition. If been in the corporate environment long enough to know that phrases like, “on a great trajectory and moving towards our goal” usually means your pants are on fire.
How about he just posts a freaking production rate? “We’re now able to make ___ knives a week.” … maybe with a picture of knives equating to that number…
Open their forums back up, what a joke.
Both Guy and Ellie are still members of BF’s, even though their sub forum was closed they were not specifically banned.
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SURVIVE! EllieOpen their forums back up, what a joke.
Both Guy and Ellie are still members of BF’s, even though their sub forum was closed they were not specifically banned.
You know those bums aren't going to post here, what could they possibly say? Nobody wants another "We've totally turned a corner!" schpiel from Ellie, so without that, what do they have, you know?
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Without hard production numbers and pictures to back it up- they have nothing.
... Well... except for lots of preorder money and enough hot air to carry their sorry selves in a gondola down to Mexico.
That's a good point, and I appreciate it. Truthfully, I hadn't even considered it myself, because I have just always figured they know better than to show their faces in here again.
I'd never even thought about whether they were banned or not.