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Survive! Knives Forum Closed - What Changed?

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by ncrockclimb, Aug 4, 2018.

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  1. brute steel

    brute steel

    31
    Jan 27, 2018
    Ellie, Guy has made you into his shield and it looks like he doesn’t have your back. I would suggest to Divorce him now and get your piece before this gets ugly.
     
  2. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    ^ are you a close family member, a next of kin or a greaseball divorce lawyer vying for some business? How about you stick to discussing business malfeasance instead of sticking your nose in personal relationships where it doesn't belong.
     
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  3. LEGION 12

    LEGION 12 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 8, 2009
    This ^
     
  4. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    I would suggest you don't go there again.
     
  5. scout1sg

    scout1sg

    926
    Nov 9, 2009
    Well I certainly appreciate the correction to the spelling of Millit (notice my spelling is correct this time). Not working anything up the chain and not sinking anyone (there has already been enough language in this thread from others as well as back on the SK sub forum for that), just simply stating they (SKs) are to an extent heavily tied into Millit's operation (or vise versa) and as Casino mentioned they are both located in the same town and most likely adjoined at the hip per say. In the meantime I haven't received any correspondence yet but will relay any update I get so others can be informed.
     
  6. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    After reading a few posts in both Millit's and S!K's Instagram feeds, it appears that S!K actually moved into the Millit shop and that they are using each others equipment. To the outside observer, it would appear that the relationship is a little closer than supplier / customer.
     
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  7. SeppukuSamurai

    SeppukuSamurai

    Aug 19, 2014
    I can't see any value in involving another knife maker whom is merely renting equipment/performing work. Survive! Is more or less done. There are a multiplicity of threads and now even a deceased subform left in their wake as evidence of their downfall and misdeeds.

    At this point, they are at least producing some knives so that those vested can be made a fraction of what would have been whole and of course they have the option of requesting a refund.

    By involving Millit and associating their name with Survive!'s all you're managing to do is besmirch the name of a reputable maker, unduly, and hinder the process of those wronged being made right. It's not as if Millit is helping then word future preorders, they're helping them to so what should have been done to begin with. I find no issue with that.
     
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  8. stonesell

    stonesell Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    Their residency in Kellogg, Idaho, definitely left a “burning impression” with the small town folks there.
    Moving 500 miles to Meridan, Idaho, may or may not leave that past behind them.
    Weaving a path of destruction, lies, and broken promises; I agree that now would be a good time for members to get their money back.
     
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  9. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    Millit has openly associated themselves with S!K. Millit has promoted the work that they are doing for / with S!K on social media. Ellie has promoted their association with Millit to add legitimacy to (what they claim is) S!Ks next new product launch. They even took deposits and upfront payment for knives that they claimed Millit was going to be making.

    The exact nature of the relationship between S!K and Millit is unclear. However, my opinion of Millit plummeted as soon as I learned that they were working closely with S!K. I think that many others had the same reaction. I cannot see myself buying from Millit (or any product produced by Millit) as long as they are this closely associated with S!K. YMMV.
     
  10. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    As far as I can see, Millit’s last IG post relating to Survive was from half a year ago

    ETA: just saw post from May where they were making room for S!K in their shop.
     
  11. SeppukuSamurai

    SeppukuSamurai

    Aug 19, 2014
    Ahhh, well that's new information, for me at least.....certainly changes things. If they are in anyway promoting S!Knives, they're unequivocally guilty by association. Looks like I'll be doing the same.

    Why in the world would they do that? I run out of burning building...not in.
     
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  12. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    My thoughts exactly. It would be interesting to know all the financial, contractual and ownership shenanigans that are taking place in the background.
     
  13. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    ^ AFAIK, it is structured as an LLC so you can only do searches to find out about its members and the Managing member. Otherwise, it's a privately held outfit and the only way you can be privy to any financial information / structural details would be as a lender / creditor / business partner or if their bookkeeper / CPA. Otherwise as a member of the general public, you may only find out some info which you seem to be interested in, if they should file for bankruptcy protection.

    All the speculative stuff aside, those who still have preorders with Survive! and feel even more anguish and angst about their money, specially ever since their subforum has been archived on Blade Forums, ought to seriously consider pulling the plug on the preorders and asking for a refund right away. If Survive! should manage to turn things around, they can just buy the same GSO variants offered as S!K when supplies become readily available.
     
  14. SeppukuSamurai

    SeppukuSamurai

    Aug 19, 2014
    Great suggestion and what I would personally do.
     
  15. scout1sg

    scout1sg

    926
    Nov 9, 2009
    I'll post some feedback to some of my inquiries when I get a reply from Jordyn, I feel they basically just used the same language from the first Friday updates on some status's of my orders. The 3.5 updates have virtually been unchanged for months now.
     
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  16. SpySmasher

    SpySmasher Lead Guitar

    Sep 1, 2016
    I was surprised that Millit got involved with SK too. With their other collaborations (Hawks, TAD, Massdrop, et al.), Milllit is seemingly in the position to become THE go-to US-based midtech OEM. I HOPE that they don't get smeared with the Survive brush.

    As for me, I'm not going to jump to a decision without knowing more about the relationship between Millit and Survive.
     
  17. jb33

    jb33 Gold Member Gold Member

    96
    Mar 31, 2017
    Does anyone follow BlackScoutSuvival on IG? He has posted many videos over the years on his YouTube Channel reviewing, testing and promoting Survive Knives. The latest IG post hints at launching a collaboration with Survive! tomorrow. I could be wrong, but the photo looks identical to a Survive Knife. I’ve been waiting 15 months for my knife and would disappointed if they put this project in front of all the pre orders!!
     
  18. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    That's a great tip! I haven't followed BSS ever since I lost interest in S! circa June 2016 but yes that knife looks eerily similar to a GSO. TBT, whatever is going on does not inspire a lot of confidence on many levels but primarily because of lack of transparency from Survive!.
     
  19. SeppukuSamurai

    SeppukuSamurai

    Aug 19, 2014
    Ellie, are you releasing a collaboration with the instagramer BlackScoutSuvival? Yes or no?

    @SURVIVE! Ellie
     
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  20. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    Never watch this Black Scout, but looked tonight. They are promoting their own knives, and they look very non S/K! May not post links here, but a Google of BlackScoutSuvival video knife OR knives reveals many promotional videos of their Black Scouts (is that "BS"?) ultimate knives, all tactical, combat ready and many non-ferrous, non-magnetic, and guaranteed not to rust.
     
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