Survivorman Bigfoot

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Just watching them now and so I thought I'd put down a few things that I'm wondering about.


the tree breaks. Not so sure, but it is interesting, and I don't have an explanation for it. I've seen lots of blown down trees, but those look different.

Todd is carrying a pistol. That might not be a big deal to the US viewers. Getting a pistol carry permit for public land is not easy. So are they on private land? That changes a few things if they are. second ep. Carrying out at radium. So he's got a permit for several areas. That must have taken some work.

The forest they are in looks like fairly recent clear-cut, so I don't know about Todd's estimate of things being 50 years old. I think that forest is as old as the road, so more like 30 years old, if that is to be believed. Which I think is possible. I'm not sure when the Nordegg region was logged, but I'm guessing it was not terribly long ago.

His whoop sounds are interesting. I know that lots of animals make odd sounds. Rabbits make all sorts of sounds you wouldn't expect.

Why didn't they put in a track trap with the apples? why no trap cameras? If Todd knows where they live, why doesn't he have piles of trail camera footage?

Todd forgot to get the shoplift tag taken off his jacket...

Tree structures. Either there are lots of saskwatches running around making tee pees, or trees falling in weird ways is the norm. I've seen lots of fallen trees, and they don't always make sense. Or, just people playing games. Probably people.... fallen trees don't tend to loose all of their branches.

I don't think Todd has intentionally faked all of the footage, I think something was around him for the flare video, I don't know what. The bigfoot face.. fake

He keeps comparing them to grizzlies. We see grizzlies all the time. Of course we now have proof that grizzlies cover ground we didn't think they did, but you need a sizable population to maintain a gene pool.

Bear relocation rumor? still too close to town. And near Radium, thats tourist-ville, problem bears get a long way away, or dead. The reason its not talked about is because in BC bears are "always" relocated. In Alberta its okay to tell people that garbage-can bears get shot.

rocks knocking.... its the GD mountains! rocks fall all the time.

I feel like bigfoot could have existed. probably did in fact, given the fact that its in every culture. However, I figure they are probably extinct. or something else. The theory that Yeti may have been some sort of Himalayan polar bear is interesting.

Footprints, I'm thinking faked by an accomplice. Not that hard to do. Footage, fake. He says people don't move that way. I'll stand behind you, down hill with a paintball gun, you'll take big strides up that slope. It can be done. Besides that, its impossible from video footage to really tell the angle of the ground. and the distances and size are hard to get a perspective on.

His two videos have two totally different facial profiles

I like that Les finishes by asking if its all in his head, and remaining a septic. I think Todd is at best, misguided, at worst a fraud. I also liked how Les was very open with his opinion that for at least parts of it, that one of the explanations was that Todd was a fraud. ten years of setting up a fraud, I believe thats possible.
 
The other possibility is that the film followed a prewritten script, and the whole thing was set up to follow that script. Can't do what you want where you want? Do it where you can and say it is a different location. I've not seen it and, as you can tell, I am an admitted skeptic. But thanks for the review with your impressions.
 
If anyone wants to get a glimpse of some of the footage gadgetgeek is writing about, go to: www.sylvanic.com
It is the website of Todd Standing and makes for interesting viewing; and like Codger_64, I remain a skeptic also.
 
Thanks for the info. What show was this? I knew Les was planning something with Discovery where he would hunt sasquatch in typical Les solo style. Sounded like a great show idea, as I like Les' shows. I guess it's already airing. If this is the "Todd" I'm thinking of, I was under the impression he was very questionable already.

As for structures, I've seen some wierd stuff with trees which didn't appear to have happened naturally, as nature doesn't "weave" downed trees together under tension. And some of what I saw was out of the realm of human strength and ability. A 10" diameter living tree snapped about 8 to 10 feet off the ground, surrounded by like sized un-broken trees. Stuff like that which just seems odd, not impossible as shear winds and such happen, but curious none the less. It appears some of the great apes use structures or architecture for what we believe is communication. I've heard of strange "arches" suddenly appearing near hunting blinds, assumed by believers to be a big, natural warning sign for less observant woodland creatures:D

Codger, skepticism is natural and healthy. It keeps us from getting conned and ripped off, or worse. I'm a skeptic as well (and likely will be unless I have a face to face meeting, which would probably keep me indoors for awhile:)), but the way I see it, if bigfoot adds to the magic and mystery of the woods, then I'm all for it.
 
Never seen the footage you are talking about, but the thing that gets me when it comes to bigfoots,(or bigfeet, whatever the plural of them is) is this.

There have been people killed by deer, dogs, bears, cougar, and snakes(and more). There have been documented attacks by groundhogs, raccoons, beavers, birds, and even squirrels, but nobody gives them a second thought really.

When it comes to bigfoots, or bigfeet all of a sudden when someone sees one they are afraid and run or feel fear like it's for some reason going to hurt them.

Not one instance of a bigfoot causing anybody any harm at all, but everyone seems to be afraid of them.

Why?

I had a feral horse attack my truck once in Southeast Kentucky and I still don't run from horses and not really any fear of them.

I do need to add that I don't believe in bigfoot, so it's not a problem for me but to the people that do, why the fear?
 
Never seen the footage you are talking about, but the thing that gets me when it comes to bigfoots,(or bigfeet, whatever the plural of them is) is this.

There have been people killed by deer, dogs, bears, cougar, and snakes(and more). There have been documented attacks by groundhogs, raccoons, beavers, birds, and even squirrels, but nobody gives them a second thought really.

When it comes to bigfoots, or bigfeet all of a sudden when someone sees one they are afraid and run or feel fear like it's for some reason going to hurt them.

Not one instance of a bigfoot causing anybody any harm at all, but everyone seems to be afraid of them.

Why?

I had a feral horse attack my truck once in Southeast Kentucky and I still don't run from horses and not really any fear of them.

I do need to add that I don't believe in bigfoot, so it's not a problem for me but to the people that do, why the fear?

Not saying they exist or not, only offering a possible reason for being afraid.
I would imagine it would be like seeing a gorilla in the wild. They are fascinating behind glass at they zoo, but I can imagine it would be terrifying in the wild. Plus, for anyone who claims to see a bigfoot, probably gets scared because they aren't "supposed" to exist. Plus I hear they stink...
 
I've had enthusiasts tell me they believe there have been attacks, but they're attributed to something else. They also believe some missing persons cases could be related to sasquatch. Century old Canadian accounts, and much older Native American stories, report kidnappings of folks. Funny thing is, these same people, while showing a healthy respect for the creature they believe in, aren't really afraid. Were I to come face to face with a 9' tall 800 lb. hairy beastie, it would have to show some awfully endearing behaviors for me not be terrified! I would as well be terrified were I to come in contact with any of the great apes in an uncontrolled setting. Even chimps can tear you apart. Of course, I was once attacked by sparrows in an old adobe structure during the wee morning hours. In spite of being armed and prepared, I ran out swinging my arms like a little girl:D
 
I would add the Bauman story as told by Theodore Roosevelt. That one is chilling. The Ape Canyon Attack is wild as well.

I can't say I believe in these stories 100% as I'm sure over time that the details have been clouded. However of all the accounts/stories they all are pretty much aligned with eachother. I have a hard time believing 1000's of people would go through the trouble of making up something like a bigfoot encounter.
 
I have a hard time believing 1000's of people would go through the trouble of making up something like a bigfoot encounter.

I don't.
People put a whole bunch of work making those stupid crop circles, which was more effort than saying "Some big ape thing in the woods scared me!"
People crave attention.
People make crap up all the time.
 
I don't.
People put a whole bunch of work making those stupid crop circles, which was more effort than saying "Some big ape thing in the woods scared me!"
People crave attention.
People make crap up all the time.

I think some people who have come out about some of these things, have not gained a thing, only lost everything.
Why would people do this?
 
There will always be hoaxsters, but there are also plenty of folks who have nothing to gain and seem sincere, and sometimes disturbed by what they encountered. I think the historic accounts really add credence to the legend. Native folks had nothing to gain and often wouldn't speak about sasquatch outside the tribe. Sure, some native sasquatch strories certainly appear to be fables or parables of sorts, or greatly exaggerated, but they are widespread enough to make one wonder. Mountain men like Bauman had nothing to gain. Roosevelt was a shrewd observor and highly intelligent, and he thought enough of Bauman's story to repeat it. They're not all lies, but what they are I cannot say.
 
How about...ghosts?
I remember working security at the hospital, when a guard came running back yelling that he had seen a ghost through the window of the abandoned part..
He had run so fast he had lost his sunglasses.

I asked him what the "ghost" looked like.
The "ghost" was bearded, about six feet tall, looked to be in his middle 40's...
I said, "Isn't it possible that it might have been that glue huffing, fired plumber we were looking for?" (he had been living in the abandoned building and hiding in maintenance tunnels after being fired; we'd been searching for some time)

To a "true believer" it was more logical that it be a ghost than the flesh and blood human we were searching for. :rolleyes:

People are stupid.
 
So I take it you do not believe in the paranormal ?

When things are true, belief is unnecessary.

The abandoned (now demolished) building was creepy, with falling ceiling tiles and old children's toys strewn about...it was exactly like a set from Nightmare on Elm Street. Seriously.
But there were no ghosts.

Strange noises in the woods? I'll put my money on regular animals known to be around.
Others think it's Bigfoot.
Yet others think it's ghosts.

I'm just waiting for the new, exciting "reality" show on Outdoor Network...Bigfoot's Ghost.
 
When things are true, belief is unnecessary.

The abandoned (now demolished) building was creepy, with falling ceiling tiles and old children's toys strewn about...it was exactly like a set from Nightmare on Elm Street. Seriously.
But there were no ghosts.

Strange noises in the woods? I'll put my money on regular animals known to be around.
Others think it's Bigfoot.
Yet others think it's ghosts.

I'm just waiting for the new, exciting "reality" show on Outdoor Network...Bigfoot's Ghost.

Some years ago, scientist with all there arrogance claimed, a ATOM is the smallest particle. Years later, they had to rewrite the books and say well, there are protons, neutrons, electrons, quarks, subatomic particles also that are smaller, that we can see as of now.
Are they stupid too. :D
 
Noises in the woods being known animals, I would agree with.

That being said, I personally put more stock in ghosts than I do bigfoot.
 
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