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Sussing our True Temper axes

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by AaronGP, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. AaronGP

    AaronGP Basic Member Basic Member

    118
    Jul 19, 2014
    Maybe a simple question, maybe not. I’ve seen Flint Edge, Kelly Perfect, Vulcan, and various combinations of True Temper axes. Is there a specific relationship between all of these models, or is just all arbitrary? Is there any kind of hierarchy? Is one better for one use and another better for a different use? Thanks!
     
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  2. ithinkverydeeply

    ithinkverydeeply Gold Member Gold Member

    954
    Dec 17, 2018
    I can’t find the link to where this was previously discuss but I believe this is their 1913 price list.
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    Sorry I can’t credit who wrote this but it was important enough to me to screenshot and save, if that helps. ;)
     
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  3. junkenstien

    junkenstien

    757
    Feb 15, 2017
    Believe it’s mostly fit and finish with the top of the line warranted.Pretty sure it’s all the same steel but don’t think anyone has had them tested.Far as what works best think pattern and what your chopping matters more than the name.
     
  4. Yankee Josh

    Yankee Josh Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 31, 2018
    Type in "Kelly axe manufacturing thread" to the search bar on this forum and you'll find a bunch of useful info regarding your questions.
    I think the individual who posted itvd's screen shot will be easily recognized too.
    It is hard to tell the difference. My personal thought is that some had more hands on them during production and especially tempering while others were more mechanized including the tempering process. I never read that in so many words but I gleaned it from different ads and the descriptions therein.
     
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  5. Square_peg

    Square_peg Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 1, 2012
    I think most companies had two tiers of steel and different finishes within those two tiers.
     
  6. A17

    A17

    951
    Jan 9, 2018
    True as that list may be, my TTFE would whup a TTKP any day of the week and on the weekends too.
     
  7. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    I think it's just finishing and things like that.

    For example a Woodslasher may have only seen one grinding before they simply slapped a coat of red paint on it.
    I'm sure they're of different eras but my slasher Boys axe and Slasher hatchet both have some very obvious grinding marks while my KELLY Handmade does not and obviously saw much more time in the finishing department.


    From what I've seen it appears the least expensive axes ( the slashers ) saw minor finishing and a bunch of paint,
    The next level up saw more finishing and less or no paint.
    The top tier lines saw the most finishing and either no paint or just some accent painting as to not hide the nice finish.

    At least that's how it appears to me.
     
  8. Fmont

    Fmont Gold Member Gold Member

    816
    Apr 20, 2017
    This issue was a bit perplexing to me as well. I came to think of it like cars: A couple models (entry, mid, lux) with different trim level and packages. Built on same chassis, basically same car, mostly difference is time put into fit, finish, and qc. Like a Suburban vs Denali XL vs Escalade.
     
  9. Square_peg

    Square_peg Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 1, 2012
    I think it's more along the lines of what Council is doing now. Their base line axes are 1060 and their premium axes are 5160. I'd bet that Woodslashers are 1060 and that True Temper's premium axes contain something along the lines of 1080. Maybe monosteel. Maybe electrowelded.
     
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  10. rjdankert

    rjdankert Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Mar 10, 2011
    Sussing our True Temper axes
    Are we talking American Fork and Hoe Co True Temper Kellys (post 1930 buy out)?
    After A F & H became True Tremper(1949)?
    Some later date?
    All of the above + original Kelly Axe Mfg. Co.?

    Maybe not?

    Bob
     

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