I just purchased one of these from Cheaper Than Dirt, for $5.97, and I've got to say, it looks like a really nice rig. It includes a cook pot, dish/frying pan/pot lid, stove, burner, and fuel bottle, all in new condition. The whole set-up nests, and is small enough to fit inside a .50 cal. can with room to spare. I seem to remember another member of this forum mentioning that he had one. Now I know that the burner is designed to use alcohol (rodsprit, in Swedish), but as there are no instructions, I was wondering if anyone knows if a specific type of alcohol is recommended, and how is the burner used? It would appear that the fuel is just poured in the top and lit, but can anything really still be that simple?
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Swedish Army SVEA stove/cook set...
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Ravenn here
I have a Trangia stove from Sweden, basiclythe same thing an alchol/spirit stove. Will boil water in about 4 minutes depending on the pan size and material you use ( aluminum is quicker). Since all my back packing meals only require boiling water only, I can nest it into a 13 oz coffee can with a wire bale, and use a piece of hardware screen for a stand, and dryer vent for a wind screen and it all fits in the coffee can.
Fuel is an issue with alchol stoves..they do not function as well with more than about 1.5 oz in it at any one time, but that much fuel will boil 16 0z of water easily. Denatured alchol works best, but HEET found in the auto dept of major siscount stores 9 the yellow bottle, not the red) works just as good
Enjoy...
Ravenn in Ky
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Age, and treachery , will always win out over youth and skill!
I have a Trangia stove from Sweden, basiclythe same thing an alchol/spirit stove. Will boil water in about 4 minutes depending on the pan size and material you use ( aluminum is quicker). Since all my back packing meals only require boiling water only, I can nest it into a 13 oz coffee can with a wire bale, and use a piece of hardware screen for a stand, and dryer vent for a wind screen and it all fits in the coffee can.
Fuel is an issue with alchol stoves..they do not function as well with more than about 1.5 oz in it at any one time, but that much fuel will boil 16 0z of water easily. Denatured alchol works best, but HEET found in the auto dept of major siscount stores 9 the yellow bottle, not the red) works just as good
Enjoy...
Ravenn in Ky
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I like these little stove sets so much that bought 3 of them - one to use, one to lose/tear up, and one to put away.
Some things I found out about them online, mainly at ultralight backpacking websites, and by experimenting:
The burner is the same thing as the Swedish Trangia brand stove, which sells for 14 dollars US by itself. By the way, Swedish military stuff is marked with 3 crowns.
The fuel reservoir in the sides of the burner is packed with a wicking material that looks like black thread.
Keep the little burn holes at the top clean for optimum performance. Be careful not to enlarge them, however. A straight pin ought to work okay for this.
To extinguish the stove- smother the flame with a damp cloth, bandana, etc. Do not put the cap onto a lit stove as this could damage the o ring in the cap. However you can remove the o ring, put the cap on the stove, then replace the o ring after everything cools.
By the way, the o rings are apparently hard to find, and while they don't cost much, the shipping charges are expensive (50 cents for the o ring and 5 bucks shipping or something like that). It appears that the only thing the o ring does is keep the fuel from leaking out of the stove. If you store the stove empty you wouldn't even need the o ring, it seems to me.
Putting a pan, etc on the top of the stove wont put it out. The burn holes are recessed below a small lip, and the stove will continue to burn.
An alternative to extinguishing the stove is to just burn until it runs out of fuel. You can experiment in advance with how much fuel it takes to make heat a cup of water, etc.
Do not touch the stove (burner unit) while it is burning! It will be very hot. I read that a guy started a fire when he attempted to pick up the burning stove. He dropped it of course and burning fuel went everywhere. (Everyone has a brain fart now and then.)
Never attempt to use any petroleum product (Coleman fuel, etc) unless your life insurance is paid up. It could cause the stove to explode.
90 percent rubbing alcohol works, but burns dirty and leaves a lot of soot on the pan. 70 percent burns too cool. Denatured alcohol works well. It will sometimes say for use in marine stoves on the can somewhere. By the way, I learned that boats use alcohol stoves instead of propane stoves for safety. If theres a leak, the propane fumes can settle in the lowest point in the boat and then wait for a spark etc to ignite. Any leaking alcohol just evaporates.
My fuel of choice is HEET brand automotive gasoline line antifreeze or de-icer (in the yellow bottle, just like Ravenn said). It burns clean and is cheaper than hardware store denatured alcohol, at least where I live. I keep a half dozen or so bottles of it in my truck. Other brands of de-icer will work- just make certain that it's made from alcohol and does not say 'contains petroleum distillates' on the label.
Grain alcohol (Everclear) works, but what a waste
I suppose 151 rum would work also. I built a pot support out of hardware cloth (heavy wire mesh) so I could use the burner by itself without the military pot stand and windshield. It's just a circle of mesh that is 3 inches high and 4 1/2 to 5 inches in diameter (it's sort of oval shaped). I made it 3 inches high because that's the distance from the top of the burner to the bottom of pan when it's in the military cookset. Of course a couple of rocks also work
I also built a windscreen out of an aluminum oven liner- its like super heavy duty aluminum foil.
The maker's website:
http://www.trangia.se/
Info on the names of fuels in different countries:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~mbuckler/fuel/fuel36.htm#intro
There's some discussion on the Trangia stove in the forum section of this site:
http://www.spiritburner.com/
Have fun with your new stove!
Bill
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Simple kitchens aren't bad, when i did service we usually turned the cap up-side down and placed it on the burner, 9 times out of 10 'twas enough to extinguish the flame, just don't leave the lid lying, kill the flame and remove, no need to remove the rubber packaging.
Just a Swedish ranger tip...
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I'm Swedish, so I naturally use the red coloured "Rödsprit" intended as a fuel. But not straight. Add a little water and it won't soot the water container as much.
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x39,
I looked on the Cheaper Than Dirt site and did not see the SVEA alcohol stove. How did you located it? [I assume they ran out, but have my fingers crossed that you may have a lead.] Although my profile has it anyway, I inserted my email address in the event you have a hot ;-) tip. Thanks.
Donald.
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I looked on the Cheaper Than Dirt site and did not see the SVEA alcohol stove. How did you located it? [I assume they ran out, but have my fingers crossed that you may have a lead.] Although my profile has it anyway, I inserted my email address in the event you have a hot ;-) tip. Thanks.
Donald.
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X39,
Thanks for the info.
, at least it helped me find out that they were all sold out
Maybe later...but don't tell Bill, he might buy another 3
Actually, I too was considering more than one. One for the trail and one for hurricane season backup here in Miami. Plus, use them both and have a two burner stove
Donald
Thanks for the info.
Maybe later...but don't tell Bill, he might buy another 3
Donald
I have four of the stoves and like them very
much. Purchased mostly for sterilizing water
but I also bake in it as well. A little spice
cake or bluberry muffin is good for the moral
when in the bush a few days. One of the stoves was missing a "O" ring but I went to
the local auto store and found an exact match
for about .25 cents or so. I don't use the
alcohol stove. At first I purchased ECOFUEL
and reloaded the empty can with denatured
alcohol but they are expensive. While at
Sams Club I saw a case of 12 alcohol chafing
dish fule for $12.00 and purhased a case.
The wicks has to be pulled out about 1/8 inch
and fluffed out to work but they will burn
and boil water for about 2 1/2 hours per can. They can be reloaded with alcohol if you
want to take the time. Overall they with the
stove are a little heavy. I carry the stove
and three cans of fuel which easily lasts me over a week. I make up my own meals using
a food dryer and a vacuume sealer with on the
grocery shelf foods. A lot cheaper and I have
the foods I like to eat and only using a cup
of water.
much. Purchased mostly for sterilizing water
but I also bake in it as well. A little spice
cake or bluberry muffin is good for the moral
when in the bush a few days. One of the stoves was missing a "O" ring but I went to
the local auto store and found an exact match
for about .25 cents or so. I don't use the
alcohol stove. At first I purchased ECOFUEL
and reloaded the empty can with denatured
alcohol but they are expensive. While at
Sams Club I saw a case of 12 alcohol chafing
dish fule for $12.00 and purhased a case.
The wicks has to be pulled out about 1/8 inch
and fluffed out to work but they will burn
and boil water for about 2 1/2 hours per can. They can be reloaded with alcohol if you
want to take the time. Overall they with the
stove are a little heavy. I carry the stove
and three cans of fuel which easily lasts me over a week. I make up my own meals using
a food dryer and a vacuume sealer with on the
grocery shelf foods. A lot cheaper and I have
the foods I like to eat and only using a cup
of water.