I have found that the more "tactical" things that someone lugs around the less tactical they are with their training and skills. Things cannot be tactical, only their use can be.
mercop said:When it comes to knives, the more high speed and expensive a knife is, the less likely it is to every be used "tactically"
"Tactical" is not a philosophy or purpose of use.
It is not a desirable design feature in a knife.
I'd say in your case that's about 100% guaranteed that you couldn't use your knife to make a sandwich, much less prevent a drive-by rapping.Are you seriously telling me that I can't use a knife to protect myself from getting mugged, robbed, or rapped.
The term "tactical" simply means a knife or a feature of the knife is designed for a relatively specific use. It may or may not have anything to do with combat.
The pocket clip is a tactical feature because it allows the knife to be found quickly and easily. The thumb studs and Spyder holes are tactical features because they allow the blade to be opened easily with one hand. This is an especially attractive feature when coupled with the pocket clip and when you have only one free hand for a task.
Tactical may or may not require a thick blade. The Spyderco Civilian has a thin, hawkbill designed for defensive slashing. The Benchmade Onslaught has a very thin, but large blade that is perfect for most EDC uses where a large blade is needed.
I'd argue that the Gayle Bradley's concealed lock is not a tactical feature because it makes the lock more difficult to open. But if someone is concerned that a liner lock with lock relief is too easy to accidentally open for their particular uses, then the GB's concealed lock would be a tactical feature.
What we are really lacking is a clear understanding of what a knife's design features are expected to accomplish. The real problem is not that knives are too tactical, but that too many knives are designed mostly for show and looks, with little thought to function.
Wah wah wah. Knife - a sharpened piece of metal with a Handle used for cutting things.
Are you seriously telling me that I can't use a knife to protect myself from getting mugged, robbed, or rapped. Knives are tools but I can't see how they are not weapons. Grow up
What we are really lacking is a clear understanding of what a knife's design features are expected to accomplish. The real problem is not that knives are too tactical, but that too many knives are designed mostly for show and looks, with little thought to function.
the Jim Wagner Reality-Based Blade.
This knife has tactical features that no other folder has - a gladius penetrating tip, a cutting kriss curve, two blood grooves in the blade, ergonomic finger grooves with anti-slip texturing, and a Thumb Guide Slide that guides the operator's thumb to the thumb stud for immediate deployment. Also featured is a clip kit that allows the operator to choose between a standard heavy-duty window-breaker or one that looks like an ordinary writing pen clip for undercover operations where conceiling the knife, and yet having instant access, is crucial. It has two lanyard holes for air, water and wilderness operations, and it comes in tactical subdued black. When the blade is retracted, the handle and exposed blade back is designed to be a tight impact weapon. To absorb the tremendous forces you can put to the knife, there is a solid lock back mechanism. Under the fiberglass-reinforced plastic, there are two 1 mm stainless steel liners to strengthen the construction and to give the right weight to the hand.
The blade is made of 440C high performance stainless steel, which guarantees superior edge-holding ability and corrosion resistance. Not only does this weapon bear the name of the designer, but the blade is also emlazoned with the name of the fastest growing and most complete martial arts system in the world, Reality-Based Personal Protection. Jim Wagner's system has been taught to the American FBI, Brazilian GATE, Argentinean GOE, Israeli Special Forces, German Federal Police, Canadian Royal Mounted Police, and the list goes on.
All the experiences the designer had during his several police and military missions were put into the concept of this knife.
A full size fighting folder built to the durability requirements of full-on, Spec-Ops combat! If you need a utility folder, this is not the knife for you. The StratoFighters™ feature Dark Op's proprietary RaptorLok™, a self cleansing double talon locking system that uses the entire length of the knife to support the opened blade. Unlike modern unproven and complicated locking systems, this basic principles of this design have been tested for over fifty years. Dark Ops' secondary CrisisCross™ cross-bolt locking system serves the function of preventing the knife from being closed while open. The pommel end of the knife offers an integrated emergency window breaker and paracord safety tethering hole. The scales are made of T6160 aircraft grade hardened aluminum, not porous materials that cannot be decontaminated from bodily fluids or chemical munitions. Carved into the sides of the scales are lateral control grooves that provide indexing points in darkness as well as additional control without increasing the width of the handle. Deep finger grooves orient the knife in the hand and add a third more grip area. Quartz impregnated inserts provide extreme circumstances grip enhancement and are replaceable should decontamination be required. The Pocket clip is reversible for true ambidextrous tip up carry. The finish on the blade is Carbon Black Titanium CarboNitride (TiCN) vacuum deposited finish and is designed to shed the micro-fine airborne sand of Middle-eastern deserts. The Blade steel is made from Dark Ops proprietary CTV2™ steel, an exotic and expensive Hybrid of Chromium, Cobalt, Tungsten, Vanadium, Molybdenum, in an alloy of surgical grade stainless steel. Thorough hardened to 58 HRC Rockwell with a secondary cryogenic cutting edge hardening, it is a steel that is basically indestructible! A full quarter inch thick, it is one of the heaviest production blades in existence today. Production versions feature the StratoFighter™ Laser Engraving and CTV2™ Steel demarcation. 100% made in America! Spear point blade styles available with half serrated cutting edges.
so i take this means you guys don't like tanto blades or the "armor piercing tips" .....
i completely agree with you guys....you know things are fubar'd if you fighting with a knife, i have my CPL for defense and my knife for a edc/survival tool...even in the zombie apocalypse in which these tacitcool guys envision using this stuff in it's still basically useless 90% of the time....