Terävä Jääkäripuukko

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Terävä Jääkäripuukko
(Sharp Ranger Knife)
I picked up the bare tang mini-puukko, and was impressed enough to turn straight around and order the Terävä Jääkäripuukko 110 the next day.
What have your impressions of these been?
Which one/s do you have?
 
What have your impressions of these been?
Strong no-nonsense knives and impossible to beat for the price.

Which one/s do you have?

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most people who've posted about them really like the performance of the 80crv2 they do, the heat treatment is supposed to be differential, so the middle is harder, and the outside is softer... makes for something you can really use hard

the skrama might just be the best value for a shortsword/machete/handaxe replacement which is available today
(don't get the stainless version, it's not nearly as tough)

(these guys are really more about flash than real scientific testing... but still somewhat entertaining while showing some hard use scenarios)
 
I picked up the skrama the other day since I don't care for how big or heavy my condor golok is. I originally just got it to have a backpack sized blade to pack in to clear shooting lanes around deer stand locations. Honestly the skrama is awesome and way more useful than I expected. The skrama would be an idea survival knife or a great one tool option.
 
The Terävä blades showing a tad more wear than in the earlier pic. They have been on many trips and have rendered exellent service.
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As others have mentioned one or more would serve well in a survival scenario.
The Skrama alone or with any of the smaller knives as a backup.
Personally, Id go with either the Mini and the 140 or the Skrama and the 110.
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Bladescout almost says it all. I have the same setup - Skrama, puukko 110 and 140 and the mini puukko bare tang. All are great blades for the price, and not only for the price but just that: good blades. Basically, if you have those, you don't really need anything else except 1) a thin-bladed pocket knife for fine slicing cuts (to stay within the price/quality range, I'd suggest an Opinel), a multitool for the pliers and other small tools; or if you are a knife nut like most of us, just because you may want something that looks nicer with noble wood handle scales, micarta, supersteel blade etc. etc. - but there you are talking about want, not real need. Of course most people who buy sturdy, practical blades like this probably already have one or more Moras, a Hultafors, something like that. This is really the next giant step up.

Some of my own personal observations:
- Skrama: you can improve it if you sand down the 'knob' on the handle a bit that separates the two grip positions, so it won't press so much into your ring finger when you choke up on the blade; you can also thin the edge as the 80CrV2 steel can really take a beating even with a keener edge bevel (best is convex for its chopping use) - I thinned/convexed mine and went from very good to absolutely awesome. A magnificent delimbing and splitting tool. As far as the sheath is concerned, the Skrama is a very large blade that I would not carry on my belt. If you just throw it in the boot of your car or in a pack, the standard blade protector will do fine as it retains the blade pretty well. I got the molle sheath with it and attached a sling so I can carry it baldric style, which works very well.

The puukko 110 and 140: both great. Get the sheaths with them, they are awesome (the retainment system with the snap button will likely withstand being launched into orbit strapped upside-down to a SpaceX rocket and when unsnapped, still retains the knife fine even upside down, while allowing for comfortable and silent unsheathing and sheathing - it's the sheath the Peltonen Sissipuukkos should have had, save for a loop on the back to enable strapping it to a tactical harness or backpack shoulder strap).
Note that these knives do not have scandi grinds but sabre grinds with a small secondary edge bevel. It allows for a keener main grind than would have been possible with a full scandi, and works pretty well. Convex them over time on a stropping belt and they will get even better. I don't much care for shaving with sturdy outdoor knives, I do care about holding a good working edge and they do that fine.

As far as the usefulness of the 110 vs the 140: I first had the 140 and found that it chopped way above its weight and size. I used it a lot for delimbing and light splitting. Then I got the Skrama and now the 140 sees far less use. Still, it's a great multifunctional knife to carry as your only fixed blade next to an EDC folder/multitool. If you have the Skrama, the 110 is the logical companion.

Finally, the mini puukko bare tang. Most people buy these to make their own handle. I did not. I got the flat leather sheath with it and now I have a very sturdy flat blade that I can use for food prep - very good at that as it has a keener, higher grind than it's big brothers, I use it daily to cut bread and cheese, and as there is no handle it is easy to clean - and on the other hand, a small blade that I can whack to split wood as I don't need to worry about damaging a handle, I can hit the tang. And it takes up little room in a jacket pocket or shoulder bag.

So: Skrama plus 110 for yard work or car camping, 140 plus mini bare tang for hiking where the Skrama is a bit too much to carry but you still want to take some indestructible edged steel for peace of mind.

The forge residue on the blades is not a deliberate coating, my guess is that it's a result of cooling the blades in oil. I found that it tends to stick to certain things you cut - cheese in particular. You can get rid of most of it with fine steel wool or even a kitchen sponge pad, and just leave a greyish layer. Looks rough enough, does not leave sooty residue in your food.

I'm only talking about the carbon steel versions here. The 80CrV2 is a ridiculously tough steel. The stainless versions use 12C27, which is OK but according to people who have compared them, not nearly as good as the carbon steel. You'd still get a very decent knife for the price, but not awesome (except for the sheaths of course). Go for awesome. ;-)
 
Agree with several points.
Yes, buy the Skrama and the 110 and you are ready for wide range of activities and situations.
Get the factory sheaths, they are supposed to be awesome (I made my own).
The carbon versions of the knives all the way.
That you used to be able to order all the knives with just the liners was brilliant.
The Skrama liner is fine for putting in a side pocket of a ruck. I did make a sheath but only rarely carry it on a belt. The guys in Finland sometimes have a pouch which will fit the Skrama in stock. It gets good reviews.
The black stuff on the blades goes away quickly in use or with a brass pad or the like.

As for the grind, wouldnt that be a scandi with a secondary bevel?
(Traditional scandi grinds came both with and without a secondary bevel).
 
Skrama, puukko 110, and Mini Skrama. The Skrama is extremely versatile, and chops very well for a knife, but does not approach the Condor Golok as a chopper. If I had to leave home with just one big blade, it would be the Skrama. It is difficult to overstate the appeal and usefulness of this blade. (I almost said “awesomeness” but backed off because Mall Ninja, but not an overstatement.)

The Mini Skrama has a length of bicycle tube over the handle. It has a thin sheath made of a yogurt carton covered with gorilla tape. It is a fixed pocket knife, not quite every day, but often. For most purposes the mini puukko would serve as well, but I like the sheepsfoot in that size.
 
The sheepsfoot is nice for the longer straight edge. I'd get that one too but for budgetary constraints... The bicycle tube is a good idea that sticks close to the concept of a flat knife. I sometimes put the mini in its sheath reversed, blade sticking out, as an improvised handle.
I have never used the Condor Golok. I suppose there will be a better pure chopper that the Skrama out there somewhere, but it chops very well and is a very good do-it-all blade: short machete, draw knife, froe, light hatchet, big camp knife, all in one.
As for the grinds, when I think of a scandi these days I think of a Mora: flat down to a zero edge. That makes the main grind the actual edge bevel. Which is fragile unless you make it steep. It works on fairly thin blades like the normal Mora Companions, but on thicker ones you often get a very obtuse profile that makes a bad slicer. Good for splitting wood, maybe fair for whittling when just sharpened but it may get dull very abruptly - that is my experience with the Mora HD, which has a thicker blade with a more obtuse grind.
I measured the main grind angles on some blades with a digital tool:
The ordinary Mora Companion has a grind of about 23°. No secondary bevel. Scandi.
The Mora Heavy Duty is about 28°. No secondary bevel. Scandi.
(Note: the Robust, Bushcraft and Garberg have similar grinds as the HD.)
The Jääkkaripuukkos have a main grind angle of 22°, slightly keener than a standard Mora Companion. A lot keener than the thicker Moras. Plus a secondary microbevel.
The Skrama has a main grind angle of about 16° inclusive (!), thus the keenest of them all, and comes with a steep secondary bevel of 32 degrees over most of its length, with the short whittling part about 23 degrees, same as a normal Mora. I modified mine into a continuous convex down to the zero edge, which improved it a lot.
 
Thank you all for your input:thumbsup: I'm very impressed with both of these (mini-puukko, and 110) I've put the mini-puukko to work at well.. work. Breaking down boxes, cutting tape, basic light duty, and it hasn't needed anything but a light stropping so far. Both are nice and sharp right off the bat, whoever is in charge of sharpening knows their business. The 110 is, quality wise well above it's price point. I did get the sheath with it and love it, retention is crazy, it ain't going nowhere. I see more of these in my future.
 
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I've got the Jääkäripuukko 140 w/ leather sheath and love it. Great size for my limited needs. So far, the edge has held up really well. I have just touched it up on a Ultra Fine Spyderco stone a couple time. I have the say the sheaths on these are outstanding. One the best "stock" sheaths out there by far.
 
I am speaking about the 140 and 110 only:
Simple design, functional, practical, rugged, reliable, strong – in general terms. The have a strong tip (a great advantage for me) also…
In a few words: excellent and very affordable survival/ camping/ bushcraft tools.
I have one 140 carbon steel and two 110 (one in stainless and the other in carbonsteel). I ordered first the 140 later on the 110 stainless and after 1 year the 110 carbon steel.
I am very satisfied.
I would prefer to have a 90 degree spine in my 110 carbonsteel (as mine 110 stainless and 140 have) - unfortunately from the factory line was different. But I think that I can manage the situation myself.
I am used to have with me - in hikes - either the 140 or one 110 accompanied with a SAK One Hand German Army folder.
The combo is very light in order to have it in my backpack when (during hiking) every ounce counts.
Highly recommended.
 
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Opinel makes a great folding saw in a couple of sizes.

Thanks, good to know. You just peaked my curiosity enough to watch a YouTube video comparison of the Opinel, a Bahco and a Silky. They all perform similarly given new blades.

I’ve been researching folding saws for a 3-week trip in the fall. We’re renting a house in Italy where I’ll do most of the cooking on a wood grill over seasoned hardwood. I’m taking a knife roll with me but will find a hardware store to buy a pruning saw when we get there. That and my McCarter Kephart will be assigned wood prep duty for the duration of our stay.

I’m psyched. We’ve been there before. It’s a beautiful area in Tuscany and this time I’ll have better tools with me. I’ll post pics in the Kephart thread.
 
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