Ok , I will play, but the fan boys are going to flip outSuch as?
Well no wonder, you got the sabenza instead of the sebenza!Ok , I will play, but the fan boys are going to flip out
Wife bought me a crk sabanza , for our anniversary
And it had some wonky soft spots in the blade and the edge would roll
I would sharpen and it would roll again, I sent it back to crk they were very rude and unprofessional! the owner impossible to deal with and admit There was a problem, $400 is expensive for a EDC , I returned it to the place wife ordered it from and was offered a replacement , I chose a store credit, and was very pleased with the replacements
But I truly believe CRK makes a wonderful knife with a arrogant owner! A el cheapo knife I bought from ganzo in “D2 “ has been in my cleaning room for a couple of years and never a problem, same with the moraknif’s we buy for $10-$15 and keep in the boat and ranch trucks
Good thing you didn't put any money down on that assertion!I am pretty confident that the big US brands deliver the steel they advertise. I am just as confident that the Chinese brands and clones do not.
First it was the way they chose to throw Lionsteel and CK under the bus and then second the way they scuttled away like roaches when the lights came on.Gotta love that because of the lionsteel shuffler incident with Rockwell hardness being incorrectly or inconsistently measured, so many are quick to completely throw out that testing group's findings.
Nevermind that the rest of their results seem in line with expectations (nobody questions 69 HRC Maxamet data or 59 HRC M390), and that the cut testing frequently demonstrates that a knife can hit hardness targets and still not hold an edge, which is really the big problem they are demonstrating with some production knife companies.
First it was the way they chose to throw Lionsteel and CK under the bus and then second the way they scuttled away like roaches when the lights came on.
I'll agree that a broken clock is still right twice a day but I'm not buying one.
Apart from Tops, which other manufacturers use differential heat treatment ?A potential problem with these tests are what part of the blade they are testing? Some manufacturers use differential heat treating on purpose. Others it can be a sign of poor heat treating. Did they just happen to hit the one good/bad spot on the blade?
Yes I've seen Ganzo steel tests, and they generally are the correct steel types. Whether it be D2 or stainless.Ok , I will play, but the fan boys are going to flip out
Wife bought me a crk sabanza , for our anniversary
And it had some wonky soft spots in the blade and the edge would roll
I would sharpen and it would roll again, I sent it back to crk they were very rude and unprofessional! the owner impossible to deal with and admit There was a problem, $400 is expensive for a EDC , I returned it to the place wife ordered it from and was offered a replacement , I chose a store credit, and was very pleased with the replacements
But I truly believe CRK makes a wonderful knife with a arrogant owner! A el cheapo knife I bought from ganzo in “D2 “ has been in my cleaning room for a couple of years and never a problem, same with the moraknif’s we buy for $10-$15 and keep in the boat and ranch trucks
Didn't Kizer get accused of using fake S35VN by multiple people online, then they posted their invoices and receipts from Crucible to prove everybody wrong. I'm pretty sure Reate, WE, Kizer etc all use the steel they claim.
Wrong again, the knife they tested was fine; and they owe the truth to us. Instead of the truth they came up with a clickbait thread that they tried to turn viral but instead fell apart when other reliable testers debunked their results.IIRC the lionsteel knife they had performed like garbage and everyone said they were making things up, so I can't blame them for publicizing it. They don't owe Lionsteel or CK anything and I personally wouldn't buy one of those knives after seeing how badly they continue to perform.
They're still testing and publishing, though I've heard that there's a new guy doing hardness testing now. Again, nobody seems to be complaining about literally any of the other hardness or edge retention figures they are putting out. I, for one, appreciate what they're doing and like seeing how the OEMs (especially Spyderco) are handling their new releases and steels. They might have made an error or even several in the past but they've tested a ton of knives so I'd expect that at some point.
Who or what is CK?First it was the way they chose to throw Lionsteel and CK under the bus and then second the way they scuttled away like roaches when the lights came on.
I'll agree that a broken clock is still right twice a day but I'm not buying one.
Wrong again, the knife they tested was fine; and they owe the truth to us. Instead of the truth they came up with a clickbait thread that they tried to turn viral but instead fell apart when other reliable testers debunked their results.
I would guess their flaky tester is just grabbing hardness numbers off the net and cutting and pasting into their chart. It would be a compliment to call that guy a broken clock.
To be clear in the original video that LTK later deleted they stated a Lionsteel slipjoint from CK had a HRC of 50-51 instead of the advertised 58-60 HRC. After other independent testing is was found that the actual hardness of the knife was 59 HRC. At that point LTK deleted their video and made a second apology video (that they also deleted) where he admitted not a single knife tested was out of spec.
Don't feel too bad though. You can still go to YouTube and like their videos there. Just if you come here and try to sell them as an authority both you and them will get dragged again.
Irrelevant. Under further questioning LTK rescinded their statement.Did the other independent testers test the actual same knife or another of that model? Every maker puts out a bad knife or batch occasionally.
Collector Knives. He's on here. He's a longtime site sponsor and stuck his neck way out last year to make sure the forum knife happened.Who or what is CK?
Collector Knives. He's on here. He's a longtime site sponsor and stuck his neck way out last year to make sure the forum knife happened.
He noted that LTK's falsified claims damaged his reputation and business. If LTK was anything but a 2bit YouTube channel I would suspect they'd have been sued into bankruptcy; but as noted they retracted their claim and apologized. Of course a little while later they took their channel private and deleted the apology.
As they say "A leopard never changes it's spots".
No, it isn’t irrelevant. If they tested an example with bad heat treat and the other people tested a different example with good heat treat, that would make sense.Irrelevant. Under further questioning LTK rescinded their statement.
There are several thread here detailing the whole fiasco. Just type "Lionsteel M390" into google and you can read them.