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The "Ask Nathan a question" thread

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by JustinFournier, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    Hmmmm. I’ll think about it. I don’t imagine it will be easy to get the epoxy off and place them together seamlessly.
     
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  2. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    This is just a technical blurb but the addition of the chemicals (dye, soap, etc) may raise the boiling point of that broth to over 212*F but what's a few more points when you're intent on fooque'ing things up.

    #notwalterwhiteakaheizenberg
     
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  3. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    What the hell kind of dye are you using that needs an hour to work??

    I usually only do about a 5-10 minute dip in a simmering pot, then a cold water wash and they’re done-done.
     
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  4. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    Rit.

    Keep in mind my goal is very very black with no dye transfer. I kept checking on them in the bath up till 30 minutes as recommended but they were still taking on dye. So I left them for the full indicated duration possible (60 mins) and somewhere after 30 mins they stopped getting more black.

    When I rinsed them off, you could wipe a cloth on them and get a little colour transfer which I don’t want, so I used the fixative. That fixed that.

    I’ve done 4 sets of micarta, 2 canvas and 2 linen. I’m not sure how the TT will take dye so I’ll have to test a pair.

    I’m sure you aren’t surprised that I’m being picky about the results. I added the soap and salt as recommended by Rit.
     
  5. Mike157

    Mike157 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 29, 2006
    We would expect nothing less than all the way, Justin. :D Mike
     
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  6. Hard Knocks

    Hard Knocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    Justin, could you give a quick explanation of the fixative please. I had one set that did not want to hold fast. I was not using Rit dye however.
     
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  7. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    I used the stovetop method for Rit fixative. I think the bottle was $7. It says it can be used on all dyes even commercially dyed clothing so it should be fine. Very similar in process to the dye.

    3 gallons of water in a 16qt stockpot heated to about 210 degrees Fahrenheit as indicated by a thermometer. I suspended the scales midwater with wire. Stirred in 1 teaspoon (iirc) liquid dish soap. 1 bottle of Fixative. 1 hour bath.

    Then a cool rinse and a scrub with a shop cloth and dish soap. Laid to dry. 0 transfer to the white shop cloth I scrubbed them with despite using soap. No warping. So it’s a success by my measure.
     
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  8. Hard Knocks

    Hard Knocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    Awesome brother. Thank you for the break-down.
     
  9. ElCaptain

    ElCaptain Gold Member Gold Member

    165
    May 1, 2011
    Nathan, can you tell us about the other steels that you have plans for?
     
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  10. benchrest308

    benchrest308 Gold Member Gold Member

    114
    Mar 13, 2014
    @Nathan the Machinist will you be willing to tell us when the auction for the dagger is? I feel like a child waiting for Santa.
     
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  11. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Sure. It will be a little while longer, they're at heat treat, but hopefully within a few weeks.
     
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  12. mb>

    mb> Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 24, 2014
    Morning Nathan,

    Will there just be one on the auction block?

    Hey I wanted to ask about wooden handle scales. Do you always epoxy those? Wasn't sure if you would be willing to sell sets of wooden scales or not. I would love some Osage on a FK2 (would highly prefer them on this model vs the UF), but I'd buy another complete knife if they had to be epoxied and you happened to offer that. Thanks
     
  13. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    ^ as always #stillnotnathan #theresonlyonentm, so while I'm waiting for my morning coffee brain f*arts are ready to go :)

    Auction? For the dagger grind UF? If so, I'm pretty certain that Nathan will just offer them as he always does, i.e, Fridays sales. Now maybe he will offer a weird one or a fancied up one as a fun Friday's sale item but otherwise I don't see an auction on these!

    IIRC, he did mention African Blackwood, Cocobolo and "maybe" Osage as the wood handle options for the DG-UFs, but he may not offer any of those choices outside of the preorder, but then again, who knows? He doesn't even know! :D
     
  14. mb>

    mb> Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 24, 2014
    ^ Nooo, the auction for the Mother of All Daggers, the integral. The IG thing that has everyone buzzing.
     
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  15. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    right now the plan is to auction one dagger on IG soon. One was promised to Mike many years ago and therefore is spoken for. I hope to finish the last one in time for blade show next year. Those are my tentative plans.

    I used to bond wood scales to tang's, but I have had pretty good success just screwing them on if the wood is good and stable. I currently have no plans to make loose wooden scales. They are a huge pain for me.

    ... I'm a machinist not a carpenter...
     
  16. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    ... Mike feeds me tequila...
     
  17. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Bravo and well done Mike. I’m so stoked for you :thumbsup:
    You are a great ambassador for CPK irrespective of feeding Nathan Tequila :cool:
     
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  18. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    On IG? Are you planning on only doing 1/2 of the braces for Abby? :p
     
  19. mb>

    mb> Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 24, 2014
    Awesome. And congrats to Mike! (And to Abby on her new braces.)

    Understood on the wood scales. I bet a machinist could be a carpenter easier than vice versa. :)
     
  20. jlauffer

    jlauffer Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 11, 2016

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