The "Ask Nathan a question" thread

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by JustinFournier, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. SharpPancake

    SharpPancake Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 30, 2018
    What was first? Chicken or eggs? (See, this is what happened to your brain while you are waiting for new knife)
     
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  2. Burke

    Burke Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    You might be surprised by how many no ones are here.
     
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  3. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    easy, one word answer; China ;)
     
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  4. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Ti anodizing, and mods Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
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  5. vkp78

    vkp78 Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 6, 2014
    How about a poll? :D
     
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  6. Airbornetx

    Airbornetx

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    Feb 6, 2007
    Hey Nathan,

    No gemstones or jewels, no precious metal inlays for me, I’ll take elegant form and function over bling every day. Considering the superior design, materials, and workmanship, I would at least like a ballpark idea how much you think you would have to charge to make a run of integral daggers worth your while.
    If it can be done for under 5 figures I suspect that there are quite a few folks (myself included) who would be pleased to prepay for an integral dagger (or 3) from you.

    On further consideration, if you were to pursue this, then I *might* ask Chip to add his artistic flourish...
     
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  7. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Nathan,

    D3V or optimized 4V bucket teeth for this situation?

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    Whichever you think is better, I’ll take four......
     
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  8. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Probably 4V. It's pretty tough and wears very well. What are they made from now?

    Are they breaking and chipping or wearing out through abrasive wear?
     
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  9. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Just mild steel for the teeth. Cutting edge is AR400. This bucket has 833 hours on it, so, I’m good and already have two sets of replacement teeth. I want to get done with this rocky mofo before swapping out. I was just having fun pondering the question whilst I continue to carve this rocky bitch till I piss blood.
     
  10. benchrest308

    benchrest308 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 13, 2014
    Good grief, there is more rock than soil. Oof.
     
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  11. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Yeah, there actually isn’t any soil there at all. When I peel the duff back, the rocks are clean underneath. I dug a borrow pit off the side of the trail to try and get some mineral soil to surface with, but at a foot and a half down, it was still rock. We will unfortunately have to haul clean soil in to surface that part of the trail as it is for hiking only and as it sits, it’s an ankle breaking son of a bit*h.
     
  12. jlauffer

    jlauffer Tempt not the Blade Platinum Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    That's how it is around here too...total pain in the ass to plant anything.
     
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  13. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    AR400 is in the mid 40s. Delta 3V would be substantially more wear resistant and tougher.

    ... and also heinously expensive....
     
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  14. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    If that were my problem, and I'm glad as hell it isn't, one thought that would probably come to mind is surface it with chainlink fencing, then geotex, then aggregate. A buffer of topsoil on either side. Finding something local that'll grow there and hug your floating trail to keep it from moving much.

    But I have some pretty ghetto ideas about how to deal with stuff, many which probably wouldn't necessarily meet any particular standard or best practice...
     
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  15. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    For certain on both accounts. I am sure any teeth you machined out would be too damn good looking for me to use anyway.

    How about that North Sword? Now THAT I would use!

    Not a ghetto solution by any means. You are just making a gabian basket without the basket. If this was going to see vehicles, it would likely get something like fabric at the least. If it were bike trail, it would be good to go as it sits, it’s stable and “flat”, just a little chunky. Since it is for hikers only, we have to fill some of those voids. I’ll get off trail where the dirt is good and dig a giant borrow pit. Then we’ll have a couple guys run Canycom loads of mineral soil where we will have a micro ex grading it out and tracking it in. It will set up like concrete and be there forever.......ish.
     
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  16. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    aha, well if you have soil you're good!
     
  17. The Amazing Virginian

    The Amazing Virginian Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Not sure you want to reference the loss-leader KOD when trying to persuade him to make the integral dagger a production piece.

    I dunno what you would have to charge. But I did hear through the grapevine that at least one person has already paid more than $600 for one. FWIW.
     
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  18. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    More than $600 for an integral dagger? lol.

    Did you mean $6,000?
     
  19. The Amazing Virginian

    The Amazing Virginian Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    See, they got a bargain! :D

    If it takes $6000 to turn a profit on the dagger, I shudder to think what it would take for the KOD or even the potato knife. :eek:
     
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  20. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Ti anodizing, and mods Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    I think there's confusion here...the boot daggers are NOT integral daggers.
     
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