The Benchmade pen VS The Surefire pen (AND other pen pron)

So-Lo

So-Lo

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It seems there is a lot of interest in these ("Tack-T-Kewl" :D) pens so here are a few pics.

Both are very nice pens. The Benchmade pen is has a cap, the Surefire is a twisty.



The SureFire

Some do not like the gap on the Surefire when the tip is in. I think it looks unfinished, but not a deal breaker for me.

I like that it can take a ton of different refills.

Could stab if needed, its a tank of a pen.

The glassbreaker is cool, but I am sure the Benchmade pointy end would do the same thing? ;)

The clip is nice, but I was hoping it was a little thicker like the Benchmade.

Writes great, and is very well balanced.

Its a big pen, and is more suited to backpocket jean carry. Rather than clipped to the front of your dress shirt. (It would pull it down)

Looks like a nice pen, and lay people do not think... Your going to stab them when you pull it out to use it.



The Benchmade pen

Looks like a stabbing device.

It has a cap that fits very very tight.

Its a little top heavy, when in use. (with the cap on top)

Clip needs a good rebending to get it to clip right.

The milling on the pen tip area is not fun to write with for extended periods of time.

Looks like a stabbing device........ ;)

The cap does lock on the back of the pen, unlike some other cap Tack-T's.

Might take some other refills as long has they are fisher sized.

Has a very thick clip, and is thicker than most knife clips.



Again, both very nice. I think a Surefire would make it on a plane, and the Benchmade would not. Its screams, I'm a stabbing device.

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Other pen Pron :D
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Never had a blobing problem from the new Space refills......... Thats the oldies, give the new ink a try if you were once let down by it. (Just my two cents)
 
Thanks for the review, I handled a SF pen at their headquarters mid June, it didn't have very smooth action but I accounted for the lack of proper lubrication and no break in, all in all I like your review there are a few downsides, but with the adjustable stopper for cartridges and the nice finish it seems to be a nice pen. The glass breaker while effective does not look like a specific use item and is sheeple friendly.
 
When going through airport security it never hurts to be working the crossword puzzle while waiting in line, then just leave the pen open as you lay it and the newspaper on the belt...looks much less threatening that way.
 
Thanks for the pics So-Lo. I own both of these and really like both of them. I really like the way the BM cap "pops" on securely in both positions. The SF pen is built like a tank. So anyway, what make is the third pen down in your last photo? It looks nice.
 
So-Lo said:
The glassbreaker is cool, but I am sure the Benchmade pointy end would do the same thing? ;)
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I would love to see someone try to break automotive safety glass with that thing. I don't think it can be done. A rock (actually harder than steel, typically) traveling sixty or eighty MPH may chip or crack the glass. But modern automotive glass is very hard to break.
 
Gollnick said:
I would love to see someone try to break automotive safety glass with that thing. I don't think it can be done. A rock (actually harder than steel, typically) traveling sixty or eighty MPH may chip or crack the glass. But modern automotive glass is very hard to break.
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winshield glass, yes. with the laminate on winshields they dont really shatter.

side window glass is much easier to get through. but i agree, with a pen it would take some serious bat speed.


thx for the pics and review. i assume the surefire is a twist open?
 
The Surefire is a twist open. I like mine. It's my desk pen now and gets daily use.

I've got the Lightfoot, Mil-Tec, and Perrin as well. The Perrin is my EDC pen. Everywhere and always. Better than any of the other tacticals and way cheaper at $20.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
The Surefire is a twist open. I like mine. It's my desk pen now and gets daily use.

I've got the Lightfoot, Mil-Tec, and Perrin as well. The Perrin is my EDC pen. Everywhere and always. Better than any of the other tacticals and way cheaper at $20.
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Where can I see some examples of these, and maybe even buy them?
 
I have the Lightfoot, the Mil-Tac (Elishewitz), and the Fred Perrin, pens.

The Lightfoot cap looks like an afterthough, doesn't fit well closed, and doesn't fit on the back of the pen when you write. I understand refills are available now, but this huge pen takes a tiny and unusual refill which was unavailable for a while. http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=TM700

The Mil-Tac is nice, very comfortable, the cap screws on, but also won't hold the cap when writing. The rollerball refill is easily available and writes well. I don't know what ballpoint it might take. http://www.1sks.com/store/mil-tac-tdp1-tactical-defense-pen-black.html

I don't have the new Benchmade tactical pen.
http://www.1sks.com/store/benchmade-1100-1-pen-series.html

The Perrin is the best of the three -- and the cheapest by far. Unfortunately, they are out of stock where I bought them. - http://www.edcknives.com/vcom/product_info.php?cPath=10_81&products_id=1105

The cap clicks into place closed and fits on the back securely when writing. It takes the Parker Jotter or Fisher space pen refills. Closed, it's like a Fisher bullet pen enlarged, grips well despite looking smooth, and has an excellent and elegant clip. The clips on the others are strong, but bolted-on industrial style.

It is also very ordinary-looking, not an obvious combat pen at all.
 
Thanks for the mini review of the others. But, now I need another pen! :grumpy:


I did try to buy a Perrin pen a few months ago and they are always out if stock. Are there any places that can keep them in stock?
 
Gollnick said:
I would love to see someone try to break automotive safety glass with that thing. I don't think it can be done. A rock (actually harder than steel, typically) traveling sixty or eighty MPH may chip or crack the glass. But modern automotive glass is very hard to break.
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The best explanation is found in a Mythbusters episode. They demonstrate what it takes to break car side window glass under water and give and explanation of why it breaks (tempered glass). If the pen has a fine enough point you shouldn't have to hit it very hard. I bought one of the H&K (Benchmade) knives with the tiny glass breaker point on it and tried it at the junk yard. Didn't even have to hit the glass, steady pressure was enough to break the heat treated glass.

The pertinent part starts at 8 minutes 30 seconds if you don't want to watch the entire segment.

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Iv got the surefire and mil-tac pens, both are solid pens but i think the SF comes out on top.

I only just got the SF a week or so ago but its growing on me even more now. I didnt like the gap when the tip is twisted in but its starting to be less of a niggle now im actually using it.
The non lidded constuction on the SF is good and I kind of feelt the mil-tac was a bit more solid when the lid is screwed on but now im not convinced its any better.
 
Jedi_Knife said:
Thanks for the pics So-Lo. I own both of these and really like both of them. I really like the way the BM cap "pops" on securely in both positions. The SF pen is built like a tank. So anyway, what make is the third pen down in your last photo? It looks nice.
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I'm not So-Lo, but it looks like a Fisher titanium Space Pen. I like mine, but I still carry my Parker Stainless Classic. After carrying it every day for twenty-five years, I feel naked without it. It might not be tacti-cool, but it would take body armor to stop it, and I've used it for a clutch-aligning tool, so I guess it's tough enough for me.
 
yablanowitz said:
I'm not So-Lo, but it looks like a Fisher titanium Space Pen. I like mine, but I still carry my Parker Stainless Classic. After carrying it every day for twenty-five years, I feel naked without it. It might not be tacti-cool, but it would take body armor to stop it, and I've used it for a clutch-aligning tool, so I guess it's tough enough for me.
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You got it. Its a disco'ed pen called the Crown Imperial. They can be had on the bay for around $20 or so. Nice little twisty, but does have a little slop in the fit. Feels like it would break if you sat on it.

How did I leave out my Parker Classic? :confused: Great pen BTW. :cool:
 
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