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the fallacy of firesteels

Discussion in 'Outdoor Gear, Survival Equipment & More' started by sutured, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. leghog

    leghog

    Aug 10, 2013
    That's because you don't know what you are doing.
     
  2. alewn

    alewn Banned BANNED

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    Jun 22, 2016
    oh, yeah, wise guy? :) wonder how the frontiersmen got by without your bs, hmm? guess they didn't know anything, either.
     
  3. trestle

    trestle

    Feb 2, 2008
    I figured it out: you're Paul Blart's daughter. I saw that same technique in Mall Cop 2. :D
     
  4. Sosa

    Sosa

    Feb 6, 2014
    I carry a can of starting fluid and a road flare.
     
  5. leghog

    leghog

    Aug 10, 2013
    They wouldn't claim dryer lint as tender was "too bulky". That you do is laughable.
     
  6. TheDandyLion

    TheDandyLion

    764
    Mar 27, 2013
    I use a ferro rod because I think they're an interesting challenge, for the same reason I do the occasional hand drill. That said, I also carry several Bics stowed away in sealed containers as well and some storm matches and a Zippo in my pocket. The instant fire sources are there when I really need them but I would rather enjoy using a ferro rod and not waste the matches/lighter fuel which would be invaluable when/if I'd really need them. A box of storm matches will give you the one fire you need, but a big ferro rod will give me hundreds at much less expense in terms of both weight and funds.

    I think it's important to not subscribe to the fantasy of the firesteel as the perfect emergency fire starter, but I do very much enjoy using them and try to whenever I can but I would never rely on them exclusively.
     
  7. alewn

    alewn Banned BANNED

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    Jun 22, 2016
    what's laughable about it? Are you claiming that frontiersmen had dryers? What a moronic statement THAT is. I don't go out there to spend one day, or light one fire, so yes, dryer lint is bulky and it's a pita to keep dry, too. Plastic bags get holes worn in them quickly, and there's just very, very little need of anything about firesteels. I keep one in the pack, and I can use it to light my candle, or a bit of charred punk wood. Ditto my knife and a piece of sharp flint. Ditto a battery and a wire. Ditto a freznel lense. Just because you don't know yours from a hole in the ground doesn't mean that I don't. Unless you live in WA state, the "need" of starting fires in bad conditions can be met with 3 stormproof matches per year. No, you aint Daniel Boone.
     
  8. batosai117

    batosai117 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 5, 2007
    Pics or it didn't happen....


    Sent from my electronic multi-tool.
     
  9. leghog

    leghog

    Aug 10, 2013
    That you said dryer lint is too bulky. Then even repeated it. ROFLMAO!

    And you want to speak about moronic. That's rich!
     
  10. leghog

    leghog

    Aug 10, 2013
    Don't hold your breath. I asked alewn to post a pic of his carry pistol with a coffee cup and a piece of paper with "BF" and today's date written on it. I ain't holding my breath either.

    Let's see him take a pic of his outdoor kit with his BF username laid out with it.
     
  11. batosai117

    batosai117 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 5, 2007
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    With this setup I can take on the wilderness, grizzly bear and all [emoji41]


    Sent from my electronic multi-tool.
     
  12. leghog

    leghog

    Aug 10, 2013
    For griz? I just "'feed' him my arm, shove my" shiv against his temple and push.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. SAK Guy

    SAK Guy

    Jul 2, 2013
    Nice kit bud!!!!

    Here's that kit I made up just for grins a while back....still deciding on the tinder to add.
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    And here's my camp pistol to round out the kit. :D
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    Redundancy...

    The Farmer/Pioneer-X Sheath with mini firesteel.
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    Last edited: Jul 15, 2016
  14. batosai117

    batosai117 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 5, 2007
    With our kits we can hunt grizzly, make camp, and become keepers of the flame [emoji91][emoji91][emoji91]


    Sent from my electronic multi-tool.
     
  15. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    My only complaint about cotton dryer lint is that it is hard to fluff up after being compressed. Cotton balls or pads work better in that regard for me. But whatever works for you. Or I guess I could call you names and make salty comments until you moan and admit I am the God of fire-making.

    SUBMIT OR I SHALL SAY BAD THINGS !
     
  16. gadgetgeek

    gadgetgeek

    May 19, 2007
    Anyone know a good way to get a candle wick lit from a spark? I've never had it work. nor a lens, although I've only tried a few times, maybe I should try again, perhaps I'm missing something?
     
  17. leghog

    leghog

    Aug 10, 2013
    With a GobSpark Armageddon it doesn't matter.
     
  18. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    Some wicks can be flattened out to present a better target, but I would light some tinder and fire up the candle from that flame.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2016
  19. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
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    Yeah it overkill, but it doesn't weigh much and there are no rules when it comes to making fires.
    Ferro rods aren't the easiest, but they're fun.
    I'm no "Frontiersman", but I'm damn sure that they never used batteries or Bic lighters. If a certain person wants to act like a true Frontiersman, shut the power off, put your phone down and get to work. There are no rules when it comes to surviving.
     
  20. alewn

    alewn Banned BANNED

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    Jun 22, 2016
    oh yeah theres rules. Just go to the alone thread and see all the punks beeching about how you "cant" brain an animal with a rifle. its somehow against their "rules". what they MEAN of course, is they have no clue how to get that close, or shoot that well.
     

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