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The Orca: Eric Ochs design, Reate build, Massdrop release

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by JimMD, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. AF

    AF Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    Surprising to see a quality control issue with Reate.
     
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  2. Xander3Zero

    Xander3Zero Gold Member Gold Member

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    Sep 26, 2018
    I mean is it a quality control issue with Reate, or is it just that Reate intentionally lowered the production cost of these knives by reducing their normal QC standards (probably as part of an agreement with MD)?

    Basically what I'm saying is that if this knife was just produced by Reate without MD's involvement, wouldn't the price point be like $250 for the G10 models and $400+ for the marbled CF/mokuti models? I'm sure Reate is perfectly capable of producing a knife to a lesser standard, in order to meet a lower price point, right?
     
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  3. I could see this being a possibility if they hadn’t widely publicized Reate as the OEM. Since everyone knows that Reate is making them, it’d be silly for Reate to risk their reputation by lowering their standards.

    As far as pricing, the actual manufacturing is only part of the equation. It’s pretty much understood at this point that Massdrop is taking a pretty thin margin on its knife collaborations. In contrast, Reate can get an influx of cash to OEM, and doesn’t have to worry about distribution or even whether anyone buys them. Their normal pricing is such that they’re making money selling them at wholesale prices to dealers, who then get their cut selling at retail prices.
     
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  4. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    Could be that Eric is a perfectionist and wants to deliver his design to high standards and make customers beyond happy.
     
  5. JimMD

    JimMD Gold Member Gold Member

    542
    Dec 6, 2017
    The only issue identified was uneven sharpening in some of the knives; right? I’ve had reason to request replacement of WE-made knives from Massdrop, but I’ve been impressed with their customer service. I’m glad this issue is being addressed preemptively.
     
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  6. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    There have been 2 or 3 vids on YouTube about this knaf. And mine just got a tracking number. I assume most of us will get them next week. It's hard to say.

    As for the sharpening .. I'm pretty sure this is just the little triangle at the heal of which is 100% normal and Liong Mah who works with reate too explained why this is the case on the latest knife nuts podcast.
     
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  7. JimMD

    JimMD Gold Member Gold Member

    542
    Dec 6, 2017
    Received my shipping notice as well. Shipping label created, not yet shipped. My last Massdrop package took 12 days to deliver. I'll try to be patient.

    I'm really looking forward to this one. I ordered the purple MokuTi version, my first knife with that material. I expect this to be a hand-filling knife with a substantial blade but a fairy thin edge, similar to my Koenig Arius.
     
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  8. JimMD

    JimMD Gold Member Gold Member

    542
    Dec 6, 2017
    Received my shipping notice as well. Shipping label created, not yet shipped. My last Massdrop package took 12 days to deliver. I'll try to be patient.

    I'm really looking forward to this one. I ordered the purple MokuTi version, my first knife with that material. I expect this to be a hand-filling knife with a substantial blade but a fairy thin edge, similar to my Koenig Arius.
     
  9. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    3CBD27D7-AEF7-48DE-9C58-9BB2A535001B.jpeg I got mine yesterday, a day ahead of schedule. It looks perfect in every way. I’ll try to get some carry time in today.
     
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  10. wickettedge

    wickettedge Gold Member Gold Member

    535
    Mar 31, 2018
    Mine comes today, so excited.
     
  11. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    I hate shipping from md. It always goes to the next state over even though it drives in my state first. Why does that even happen.

    And when it was dhl it took forever and a day and didnt have good tracking system.
     
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  12. wickettedge

    wickettedge Gold Member Gold Member

    535
    Mar 31, 2018
    Alright this thing is great. Action, lockup, centering all spot on like you would expect.

    The carbon fiber feels really solid and I don’t have the words to describe it. Almost like chiseled stone. Really impressed with this knife.
     
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  13. Bimmer1

    Bimmer1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 30, 2000
    Received my black G-10 variant a few days ago. I wish that I had ordered two instead of one. These are very nice!
     
  14. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    I think this has the highest quality feel of any of the MD collabs, although I don't have a Keen and I've heard great things about that knife. I wonder if MD plans to do additional drops of this knife or this turns out to be a one-off. With Reate as the manufacturer the production capacity is much less than if it were WE made.
     
  15. Reate is widely considered to be a step above WE in quality, so that should be expected.
     
  16. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    I got mine wed. But opened it up last night.

    I didnt really like how they treated the base of the blade as not sharpened all the way as a defect. Thats how Reate does it. Its nice he sharpened it all the way, but ehh. I would have like it without modification.

    Ill give more thoughts as i get time but the action is nice on first impressions. The knife didnt wow me like other knives in this price range. But i wasnt disappointed in the least... At least initially. More time will say more.
     
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  17. cchu518

    cchu518 Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 6, 2013
    Love my md Zinker Dogtooth. If they can poll the market and get a high quality production knife to market quicker through their advanced inventory purchase model more power to them!
     
  18. wickettedge

    wickettedge Gold Member Gold Member

    535
    Mar 31, 2018
    I am not sure how Knife of the Year gets done, but the CF version purple should definitely be considered. This has gotta be the best massdrop knife yet, and I am just really impressed with build quality.
     
  19. JimMD

    JimMD Gold Member Gold Member

    542
    Dec 6, 2017
    I agree it’s a great knife. How’s the appearance of the pivot collars on yours? It seems the colors may vary a lot. If you could post a photo, I’d appreciate it.
     
  20. wickettedge

    wickettedge Gold Member Gold Member

    535
    Mar 31, 2018
    478F2CDE-1F02-472E-80B5-39CE88FF00ED.jpeg A0F3347D-F6C5-43E9-8910-F4E5ABEEC768.jpeg
     
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