The Spyderco Native 5 Pros/Cons?

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I am contemplating a purchase of the Spyderco Native 5, but I am a bit
hesitant. I like the use of the new steel and the beefed up lock, but the specs that I have seen show the weight at 3.7 oz which is a little on the high side for me. Is the knife worth a serious look? Your thoughts.....
 
3.7oz is high for you? I personally don't notice knives until they're about 5+ oz(wearing jeans).

Looks like it ticks off all things on the checklist for what people would ask for on a folder.

As for me, I really hate how they're drilling the holes for left/right tip-down carry on most of their models. You can see the washers right through them, perfect for pocket lint or w/e to fall through.
 
You're seriously complaining about the weight? I often carry a couple of knives everyday, those being a combination of the M4 Manix2 or Gayle Bradley or M4 Rift or CTS-20CP Paramilitary2. Most of those are hefty knives and i don't even feel the weight. Then again, I'm usually wearing Carhartt work pants...
 
I think the Native 5 is one of Spydercos finest - in the top 10 for sure and to me, the best Native they've made so far. It's close to being too small for me but not quite there yet. It feels, looks and functions like it costs much more than it did. If I had to complain about something on it, it would be that I don't like the back spring tension on back locks when I open them but that's a generality for me with back locks that doesn't stop me from buying nice ones anyway ;)

I like it a lot.
 
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I didn't find Native5 to be heavy. For me it is certainly in the top five Spydercos ever made and favorite Golden model.
 
I am contemplating a purchase of the Spyderco Native 5, but I am a bit
hesitant. I like the use of the new steel and the beefed up lock, but the specs that I have seen show the weight at 3.7 oz which is a little on the high side for me. Is the knife worth a serious look? Your thoughts.....

Absolutely worth much more than a look, unless you are really hung up on weight.
Got mine in this afternoon.
First assessment is pretty much what the others said
  • Built like a brick outhouse, a really really solid feel to it.
  • Excellent fit and finish
  • Zero blade play in any direction
  • grippy, but not rough, G10
  • mine would shave out of the box
  • very smooth action
  • so far the clip is working out well for me

A nice gem of a knife. Sweet. Going to have to play a bit with this one to investigate it more fully, but I am very very pleased with the purchase.

To this I will add that the blade hardness on mine is 59.46, which is about dead nuts in the center of the Crucible recommended hardness range for CPM S35VN.

I've had a Native III for a few years. I've always liked the Native design. This takes it to the next level. It's like Spyderco took everything they have ever learned about knife making and applied it to this knife.
 
I'm looking forward to getting one personaly.
I've wanted a traditional spyderco lockback but with grippy G10 AND steel liners for some time now.
I have a LE Stretch with FRN and nested liners, but it doesnt look as sleek to me and a tad too big, more of a "user/work" knife.
My LE white micarta Goddard has no steel liners and looks too "light use", plus i hate the partial serrations.
I bought a NATIVE 4 CF and again, its too sleek AND "slick". I thought to myself this would be perfect in G10, and I LOVE the full flat grind compared to my old school GIN-1 Native from the 90's.
I got a hold of a Wegner design OCELOT, which is a great example of what a well thought out ergonomicly design spyderco with traditional lockback and grippy G10 would be like. Unfortunately, mine is MINT with box and a plain edge AND numbered, so its destined to be a safe queen since their value has gone up from the 90 bucks i initially bought it for.

Thought of getting another Ocelot PE, but it would be cheaper and easier to find a new native 5.
When compared to all the above mentioned spydercos, you could see how a native in g10 was inevitably going to be offered. I believe a LE blue one was offered as a forum knife? but i dont think it had steel liners. And it had the older grind lines, not FFG.
And we all Know that the old standard models (pre delicas) in G10 are too rare and valuable as a user. Even the Rookies (mini policemans) can take a while to find and go for way over $100. Great if you want to add to a spydie collection of steel liners / G10 slabs (not a bad idea). But you get SOOO much more blade with the new native FFG profile.

It may be a tad heavy for its size compared to FRN natives, but you have to consider that it has the steel liners and is meant to be a "beefy"er version.
Anyway, I've obviously thought of this for a while, hope my insight/analysis/rationalizing helps out. In the end, you just have to get it and hold it in your hand and carry it for a while to be sure.
GOOD LUCK!
 
The number doesn't add to the value, it's just a collector club number. It does not designate any sort of status other than a piece reserved fokr a specific person. Just sayin'. :)
 
Just got mine 2 days ago and used at work yesterday. Yes it's heavier than my #1 all time best EDC folder, the Caly 3 G10/VG10 folder. In pocket I don't notice the difference. In hand for work I actually prefer the heft. It's a work knife not a gent's folder. For me that's a plus. I'd avoided the Native design since the Caly 3 convinced me of the utility, comfort and grip afforded by the pronounced thumb ramp. But even without it the Native 5 is a winner. The texture of the G10 slabs are slightly rougher than the Caly 3. Better grip IMHO. The polished clip of the Native is not as discreet as the Caly 3's but holds onto the pocket better. The blade is stout. Cuts well. The S35VN blade is as easy to touch up on the Sharpmaker as VG10. Not as demonically sharp as VG10 but the edge sure lasted longer. Also appreciated how I didn't have to baby the tip as much as I usually do with the Caly 3. The beefy lock gets two thumbs up. I prefer smooth, sure, and most of all STEADY opening pressure for my thumb. Speedy opening is a non-issue for me. I'm even considering carrying 2 folders every day. The Native 5 in right front pocket to be used every day while the Caly 3 will move to the left front pocket as the ultimate backup. The Native 5 is a winner.
 
I have had Native two or three years ago. Did nothing to me. Was a bit disappointed after reading so many compliments. Not my kind of a knife.
 
im considering picking one up and the weight wont bother me considering i think my endura 4 emerson opener is a bit light at 3.6 ounces. that and i've always wanted to try out some of crucibles steels. espicially the newer S35VN steel
 
I'm pretty much of the opinion that if you're interested in a Spydie, you might as well get it. It's not like you're going to get a bad or disappointing knife.
 
I'm looking forward to getting one personaly.
I've wanted a traditional spyderco lockback but with grippy G10 AND steel liners for some time now.
I have a LE Stretch with FRN and nested liners, but it doesnt look as sleek to me and a tad too big, more of a "user/work" knife.
My LE white micarta Goddard has no steel liners and looks too "light use", plus i hate the partial serrations.
I bought a NATIVE 4 CF and again, its too sleek AND "slick". I thought to myself this would be perfect in G10, and I LOVE the full flat grind compared to my old school GIN-1 Native from the 90's.
I got a hold of a Wegner design OCELOT, which is a great example of what a well thought out ergonomicly design spyderco with traditional lockback and grippy G10 would be like. Unfortunately, mine is MINT with box and a plain edge AND numbered, so its destined to be a safe queen since their value has gone up from the 90 bucks i initially bought it for.

Thought of getting another Ocelot PE, but it would be cheaper and easier to find a new native 5.
When compared to all the above mentioned spydercos, you could see how a native in g10 was inevitably going to be offered. I believe a LE blue one was offered as a forum knife? but i dont think it had steel liners. And it had the older grind lines, not FFG.
And we all Know that the old standard models (pre delicas) in G10 are too rare and valuable as a user. Even the Rookies (mini policemans) can take a while to find and go for way over $100. Great if you want to add to a spydie collection of steel liners / G10 slabs (not a bad idea). But you get SOOO much more blade with the new native FFG profile.

It may be a tad heavy for its size compared to FRN natives, but you have to consider that it has the steel liners and is meant to be a "beefy"er version.
Anyway, I've obviously thought of this for a while, hope my insight/analysis/rationalizing helps out. In the end, you just have to get it and hold it in your hand and carry it for a while to be sure.
GOOD LUCK!

HEHE,
My own earlier post ended up influencing me in a recent purchase.
I bought a few other knives and moved around my edc knives in a 12 knife collector case. I realized a smaller ti framelock would be nice to go with my larger sebbie. I cant justify spending 300 on a smaller sebbie right now so i looked at the sage II.
When i realized it was made in taiwan, I found it hard to spend around 140 on a taiwan knife, so i lost interest. NOT in a snob way, or in a lack of QC way (i totally respect spyderco in this departement). but it was more in a "sending jobs overseas during a shitty economy" way;)
and i REALLY dont NEED another ti framelock. I realized i have another long forgotten "lesser" ti framelock (interestingly also made in taiwan) in the crkt s-2 middle size.
It's not at all the caliber of a spydie but it will have to do, to fill that spot for now.
I thought of what else i've coveted recently and remembered the native 5 and this thread.
"no better time then the present" i thought. i tend to go knife crazy and purchase in groups.
It would be my 3rd edc spydie along with two other lockbacks, but the only with g10 and liners. it would also go well with my mini native collection.
a vintage mint gin-1 steel plain edge with box (i bought it cause it reminded me of my first similar native in gin-1 that had serrations though). it ended up looking too sweet so after only a weeks carry, it ended up a "collectible".
My native 4 in cf was an implulse buy since i saw one new from a store for 100 when i saw most others for 150.
LOVED it, but too sleek, a dress knife that would never get put in a suit. and WHAT? - no top jimping? - BLASPHEMY!!!

Anyway, this latest spydie native offering seemed to read my mind so now i have no excuses, so i'm getting it.
I may give an update when i recieve it, but something tells me its all been said here before.

Cheers!
 
did they reduce the weight on this? the 2011 catalog says 4.5 oz and the new catalog says 3.7 oz...

was it a misprint?

either way when i received mine it felt a bit on the heavy side for a small folder. that's just merely my opinion though...

other than that it was impressive.
 
but the specs that I have seen show the weight at 3.7 oz which is a little on the high side for me.

what knives are you currently carrying that make 3.7oz on the heavy side?


it's strong and reliable but IMO too heavy for its size. snatch up a sage...

the sage series and native 5 are very similar in size and weight

the sage 1 is 3.2oz
the sage 2 is 3.5oz
the sage 3 is 3.5oz
 
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How would you rate it overall compared with the CF Native4?
I love both knives. Both are very close. I am not a big fan of smooth CF, still I think that N4 looks a little better. Native5 has screw construction, which I prefer. N4 has jimpings only on choil, N5 has on choil and on the spine, so N5 has much more secure grip. Also N5 is Golden made, which means a lot for me. And the last, but not the least N5 has a new improved lock.
 
I'd like it better with a street price of $74.99, but I'm still going to get one. :)
 
I love both knives. Both are very close. I am not a big fan of smooth CF, still I think that N4 looks a little better. Native5 has screw construction, which I prefer. N4 has jimpings only on choil, N5 has on choil and on the spine, so N5 has much more secure grip. Also N5 is Golden made, which means a lot for me. And the last, but not the least N5 has a new improved lock.
Thanks for the input, I really am liking the knife.I just can't seem to buy one yet. Every time I go to buy a knife, I end up with something different. Just now, I bought a GITD manix2. :( I can't stop buying knives I tells ya.
 
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