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Discussion in 'Wilderness & Survival Skills' started by Esav Benyamin, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. baldtaco-II

    baldtaco-II

    Feb 28, 2006
    Very different. I've just seen a recording of the above and some of that Colony thing, and just yuk. The Colony has as much appeal to me as a hybrid of wrestling and Paris Hilton's BFF. I like my stuff grounded.

    Although not ideal as a test, I do believe this offers a more tantalizing glimpse of the reality of things than many other shows.

    I tend to be much more interested in this survival stuff in relation to how people at different times solved similar sorts of problems. Something that people live, not something they are pretending to be with a modern firesteel, that holds scant similarity to really getting a spark from a rock.

    I find the antidote to all these psuedo-militar-gobshite types in folks like John White, master of shrooms, that buddies up with Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, and has written extensively about eating from hedgerows and whatnot.

    Same kind of theme runs through my adoration of the stuff on this page. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+victorian+farm In much of the stuff those guys are doing I really feel the survival and skills are demonstrated in the form of a living museum.

    Whilst the above goes back before the industrial revolution, we are still rather tethered to Baldric and his very own turnip era. But this is before agriculture. I've been to where they film some of the above more than once, and interacted with the folks a few times. And I've never seen a simulation run in such precarious conditions as this. If I could have gone and watched them living this one I would have. The grind must be epic.

    I can forgive the show to letting them wear their own shoes. Some may see that badly. I see why, and have some sympathy. I don't think you'd have much of a show if you didn't though. Rather than complaining about the authenticity, control for it, and take the learning – “without shoes they would have been spastic”. Likewise the blanket issue below:

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    1] Man provides intake with skins.
    2] Lek chats about having never eaten anything living.
    3] Mrs Toad knows stuff but her body fails her day one.
    4] Team introduced to artificial puddle as water supply. Strongly hinted at to guard this cos everything wants it.
    5] They seem pretty chirpy in their skin filled huts.
    6] They have some apples and nuts given to them along with salt. They are supplied with meat and some flint to butcher it.
    7] They get a friction fire going. More importantly the tutor is providing an ideal model of strategy. As they separate an ember into a safe half and a working bit, that may go out, the pointy finger goes extends, targeting; “You, you are in charge of that. Do nothing else but blow on that mother coal and keep it alight. Do not deviate!”. Task completes.
    8] All seems chirpy but mundane failure is so close.
    9] They try to preserve some meat.
    10] A woman fondles her meat and it is too wet.
    11] They strip it into smaller bits with the flints but it is not drying quickly enough. It already has eggs on it.
    12] It's not like they dragged their heels, and they are already getting a maggot infestation.
    13] By the following day the maggot thing has come on a storm. All the processed skins and furs they were given at the start are riddled with thousands of maggots.
    14] Safety team bloke comes in and starts combing a blade across a fur to scrape the maggots off. He just generates a rice pudding type paste. The thing has barely got going and they are already having to lunge for the emergency blankets.

    Yep, I liked this much better than the Colony. Its far less dramatic, but I think it is a conspiracy of the less dramatic events that can drag one under so readily. I'm looking forward to the next one. Prior to turning up they had been given a manual and a DVD to swat. Tutor guy has been really emphasizing how they need to tighten up just as much as they need to know stuff. Soon he'll leave them to it.
     
  2. survival-skills

    survival-skills

    2
    Mar 8, 2016
    something for nothing
     
  3. alewn

    alewn Banned BANNED

    130
    Jun 22, 2016
    first all the steel knives, tools, ammo, etc has to have rusted away. What makes you "think" that you'll be among the 1 in 10,000 that survives the "first 20 years" of shtf, with all the diseases, fires and killing, hmm? Especially when you lack modern fighting gear. what makes you "think" that your livestock and edible plants won't be stolen and eaten? What will you do about all the starving dog packs? What makes you " think" that you wont be enslaved or killed, hmm?
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2016
  4. Kyp Degal

    Kyp Degal

    513
    Sep 25, 2005
    What happened here? I was away for a couple years, and now the Great Outdoors forums here seem mostly dead. Did everyone go to Reddit?
     
  5. gunknifenut

    gunknifenut

    Jun 9, 2006
    YO! Wake up W&SS! Anyone I know still alive?
     
  6. abz

    abz

    26
    Feb 12, 2018
    this entire forum is dead as eff.
     
  7. Rick Marchand

    Rick Marchand Donkey on the Edge Moderator

    Jan 6, 2005
    Who dat? who dere?
     
  8. Student762

    Student762

    822
    Mar 7, 2014
    Aiiii lads and ladettes
    Any of you fine folks from down under?
    If so, what's your go to in terms of wood processing? Do you bother with axes or do you straight to the saw?
    I grew up on a rural spread in wa and I have to say, much as I love axes I've rarely had a need for them when lighting camp fires and such because our trees shed such voluminous amounts of fire making materials that when I need to break down timber it's generally lengthways rather than thickness.
    Any thoughts?
     
  9. gadgetgeek

    gadgetgeek

    May 19, 2007
    I'm in south east queensland, and while I do have an ax, it only gets used on bought firewood. Most stuff here doesn't split very well at all, or can be dealt with just as easy in the fire. Silky pocketboy is as big of a saw as I generally use, since eucalypt burns so well (short lived thought) and often a star fire is just as effective.
     
  10. Currawong

    Currawong Gold Member Gold Member

    May 19, 2012
    I'm in NSW in a rural area. At home I use a chainsaw and a log splitter. In the bush I just pick up sticks and throw them on the fire. For fun I use big knives but don't really need to, except for splitting sawmill offcuts for kindling. The axe mainly gets used for hitting animals on the head that got run over on the highway. Never use a handsaw except maybe in pruning in the garden or the occasional carpentry.
     
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