This much drama for a Gerber?

silenthunterstudios

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It all started while reading the Mens Journal. Nestled between the Viagra ads and the Viking Resorts ads, was a review of the Gerber Silver Knight. The model in the picture was one with wood scales. I thought to myself, "What a pretty little knife." And that was it.

Several months later, after crossing the river from China knockoff brands to Cold Steel and Camillus, I found myself thinking about the Gerber. I looked and looked and looked, but the model had been discontinued. No one had any. I finally found one, I don't know if I bought it on here, on flea Bay, or from an online retailer, but I finally got one. It wasn't my EDC, but when I did use it, it was not only a pretty knife, but a pleasure to use. Carrying some big Cold Steel folders at the time, this was my back pocket EDC, before I knew what an EDC was :D .

After some time here, I started to become a steel snob (still am, but I have gotten better). After looking in a distributor catalog, I saw the steel listed as
"stainless steel"
. It wasn't even listed as 440A, or 420HC! Was it even the steel used in liners? I didn't know, and frankly, lost all interest in the knife. In retrospect, that was my first mistake. Then, as it took up space in my knife roll, my distaste for it began to grow. After some time, I either sold it on BF, or on eBay, I can't remember, I think it was here though. I have bought and traded many Buck folders of similar design as the Silver Knight, but none were as nice IMHO. I finally gave up on the small lockback folder, and focused more on what some consider "tactical" folders.

Last year, I started to develop a deeper appreciation for traditional folders. Maybe its my susbscription to Backwoodsman magazine, maybe the fact that I can't purchase the high dollar folders anymore, maybe I just found more character in the older knives. I don't know. Anyway, I saw a thread about the Silver Knight. I posted about my Silver Knight. And, to my horror and guilt, AG Russell posted, stating that the steel in the Japanese made Silver Knights was AUS8.

I was taken aback. Did I really get rid of that knife because the steel wasn't listed in a catalog? It was AUS8 you dolt! I frantically started searching flea Bay, and posting here and on other forums, that I wanted a Silver Knight. I finally found one on eBay, but when I got it, the blade was a little smudged, the scales were somewhat worn, but it wasn't what I had seen in the magazine those few years ago. So, I ordered another one off of eBay. It came today. I was more excited opening the package for this folder than I was when I got my Sebenza :confused: ? Opening and closing it driving to work this morning, I realized that the first one I had bought was from an earlier run, and the one I had just received was from a later run. Was AG referencing the one made earlier, later or both? An acquaintance at the Chesapeake Bay knife club made mention of the fact that AG had gotten a small run of the SK's. I started to think "What if it isn't AUS8 steel?".

I finally realized that steel isn't that important to me. If this knife, this one that was such a joy to use, only a knife knut touched by the disease that is collecting would know the feeling, could elicit such an emotion, then I should keep this knife. Whether it was nostalgia for something from my childhood, whether it was just the simplistic beauty of the knife, or whether I am just certifiably insane, I don't care what steel it is. I'll still carry the Benchmades, the Spydercos, the Striders, the Swamp Rats, the customs. This knife does not measure above the others in its useability, it is a gentlemans knife, and might not hold up to daily wear and tear, but it is a great find, and a great tool. And it is mine, again.


Sad fact of the matter is this, those two blade Silver Knights looked pretty damn nice, and I think I need to get one...

:D
 
Great post Silenthunterstudios,

I'm a relative newbie to this site, but I've been an active or passive knife knut since I was a kid. Although I've not seen many Gerber products first hand, I have to say I'm impressed with the few I have seen (and more importantly, used). You see, I've had a Gerber LST since the fall of 1989, and carried it as my EDC every day, absolutely everywhere (ie: to work, school, bars and hiking; to weddings; while white water rafting (I looped the lanyard around a BDU shorts cargo pocket button, so I wouldn't lose it); and used it for a couple of years working in factories, opening boxes and cutting heavy nylon strapping). Only a few years ago did I take it out of everyday service to replace it with...a micro LST. Again, call me nuts, but the LST (and its little brother) are great products.
 
Ah, Grasshopper, you view the first rays of enlightenment. :)

A knife (any object) is what it is. You get the enjoyment out of it that you get out of it. If you convince yourself you won't be happy if it's not made out of a certain material, or cost a certain amount, that's how you'll view it. If an aspect of it gives you pleasure and you focus on that aspect, you'll derive pleasure from the object as a whole. If you purge yourself of everything that's not "perfect" (as you define perfection at one particular point) you will likely find that you've eliminated things that you appreciated at some level.

-- Sam
 
SilentHunterStudio,

Sorry I can't answer your question regarding the steel used in the later production Silver Knights. But you're becoming quite the Silver Knight fanatic, so I have a question for you:
How to tell the difference between the old production and new production Silver Knights? Also, since you've owned both, is there a quality difference as far as fit and finish?

Here are mine, both from the older series and bought on closeout in the 1990s:

SilverKnights.jpg


-Bob
 
The only noticeable difference I can see is that on the one I just got, it says Gerber on one side of the blade. On the other side it says Silver Knight Japan. The other one that I have says Gerber International on one side, and the stamp on the other side escapes me right now.

Other than that, I know very little about the Gerber Silver Knight series, I am actually not much of a Gerber fan except for the Silver Knight.
 
Ha ha ha ParaGlock, have you been reading Zen and the Art of Pocketknife Maintenance? ;-)
Damn, that would actually make a good knife manual title, now that I think of it, eh?
 
Thanks for the info. That's exactly what I wanted to know - a tang stamp difference, it can't be any easier than that.

Keep us informed if you find out what the later steel is.

...I am actually not much of a Gerber fan except for the Silver Knight.
I have an older Magnum Jr and a Gator that are well-made. And I 'd like to have one of the older Mk II knives. But their newer designs don't do anything for me.

-Bob
 
I had an EZ Out Jr? Can't remember the model, if I had a catalog in front of me, I could, was a great little knife, except the clip was total junk. If it wasn't so loose after a couple months carry, I'd still have it. Had some Paraframes, junk too. But, to each their own.

I'll check out the tang stamp tonight, right now I'm going off of memory, no sharp tings at work :(.
 
Nice write up, very interesting SHS. I agree too, Im pretty much a schrade collector but I've got a little bit of everything and hope to get more brands that I dont have. I have also bought some stuff that wasnt the highest quality and I bought it for 1 of 2 reasons. the first I couldnd afford a really good one or I was just impressed and had to have one. Great info. thanks -Joel
 
I don't know if the Silver Knight I have that is NIB is of poor quality or not, I don't know if what Gerber calls "high carbon stainless surgical steel" on the box is AUS8 or some type of junk, but I still like the knife.
 
The tang stamp on the older one is the same as the newer Gerber. Says Silver Knight and Japan right underneath it.
 
It could be then that the new and old versions are identical, and there's no reason to tell them apart...

-Bob
 
Bought one of those little buggers NIB in 1980 at some high-end sports shop---haven't seen it for quite awhile---need to see if I can't find it tonight.
 
Ha ha ha ParaGlock, have you been reading Zen and the Art of Pocketknife Maintenance? ;-)
Damn, that would actually make a good knife manual title, now that I think of it, eh?
[joke]
Actually, it's a quote from my latest book, "Zen and the Art of Trigger Control".
[/joke]

-- Sam
 
Mine says "SILVER KNIGHT" and under that "by SAKAI-JAPAN" on the back side and "GERBER" over "PORTLAND, OR." on the front. I bought it in 1975 or '76, can't remember which. It has the checkered hard rubber scales, and has been a good knife for quite a while now ;) .
 
I've got 4 of 'em 2 smaller ones and 2 bigger ones, the smaller one are like yablanowitz's from the 70s, one checkered and one scrimshawed, and the 2 bigger ones are from the 80s one black lip pearl, and the other wood.

The fit and finish on the 70's Sakai knives are top notch, I don't know what the steel was in the 70s but it held an edge forever and took a scary sharp edge, the larger 80s models were not as nice, but still a quality knife.

I saw one of the 90s models and it felt like a cheap chinese knockoff.

I started buyin' 'em of ebay cheap last couple of years for $5 & $10 but recently the older ones have been selling between $30 to $80 depending on condition and handle material.

I think these knives are sleepers specifically the 70s versions, and the Checkered Micarta with the raised shield in paticular is the hardest to find.

Buy 'em if ya find 'em, at least the earliest versions.:thumbup: :cool: :D
 
ahhh when gerber made good knives-
i can remember when they were a higher end knife-

the one knife i want again is my schrade golden spike,when i was thrown out at 16 i didnt take any of my knives with me-
 
I know I posted that I don't care what the steel is, but I do care ;). Please tell me what the steel is, this one is from the 90's, after Gerber was purchased by Fiskars. Thanks.

I will keep this one, I swear!
 
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