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I have long been a fan and user of Nalgene bottles, and have converted numerous people in my family and my friends to their use. Long before there was a push to stop using disposable water bottles, I was suggesting using a Nalgene bottle, not because of any environmental wisdom, but because it is cheaper to refill your bottle out of the tap. And the Nalgene bottles are very useful, being very durable for normal use.
Then came the cries about the plastic in the Nalgene Lexan bottles. And honestly, at first it sounded like alarmist pap. Add to that, the fact that the hordes of people who were talking about it, all had that "Prophet of the Desert" sort of zeal, which always turns me off, (I never have watched Titanic, for that very reason) and it all just turned into blah, blah, blah... But, then the scientific data started to come in.... And I thought why not, so I turned my old bottles into pen and tool holders, and bought the new Tritan bottles.
Oh yeah, and part of the issue was, I never really had a huge problem, because I had a whole bunch of the HDPE Nalgene bottles, and they were never a problem, and still aren't.
The concerns over the Nalgene Lexan Bottles of course helped Klean Kanteen, as they offered the 'safe' alternative. But, I am not a joiner, I either early adopt, or I tend to have a very laissez faire approach to change. So, I took my time, and thought it through, and considered what I really wanted and NEEDED. And, all the smug metro boobs carrying aluminium fuel bottles and preaching about Klean Kanteens did nothing to encourage my use of the type.
Which brings me to the present, or the near past. Recently, I started to pay attention to a couple threads about stainless steel bottles.
And at the same time, I was watching something, or thinking about long term use in the out of doors, and I began to consider the fact that steel is simply more durable than plastic. So, if I was out of doors for an extended time, the HDPE and Tritan Nalgene bottles would start to approach their service life at a rate that could be concerning.
The seed had been sown, and I began to seriously consider buying a steel bottle.
Now, despite Klean Kanteen being touted by some realy morons, they make a fine product, and the vast majority of their customers are fine people, my good friend Aaron, and my brother both own them, and they like them.
But, in my decision process, I decided that if I was going to buy a steel bottle, I wanted one that fit in the GSI Glacier Stainless Bottle Cup, of which I have a couple. Further, while I had given my Humangear capCap to my brother, I wanted another one, and I wanted the steel bottle to accept it.
At this point, I was browsing Two Wolves Outdoors(http://www.twowolvesoutdoor.com/), and I realized I could add a Guyot Nalgene Bottle to an order I was considering. So, through a string of emails, Lisa (LupaWolf on the BladeForums) was very helpful to answer my questions, and with some continuing reading I found that the Guyot Nalgene would in fact meet my conditions. Then, Lisa of Two Wolves Outdoors informed me that they would begin stocking the Humangear capCap... And the decision was made.
And, the rest is really anti-climatic, as the Guyot Nalgene Standard Bottle and humangear capCap are quite nice. They will work perfectly.
The Humangear capCap is a joy to use. It does away with the splash guard, which I never really cared for, and actually adds some nice features. With it you have the best of both worlds, the Guyot Nalgene it fits offers a wide mouth for filling, cleaning and a wide mouth that will fit many water filters. I verified, and it fits my Katadyn Vario perfectly. And then the capCap adds splash protection, and keeps your nose out of the bottle, which can be a real pain for some. Humangear also touts their connecting strap between the two parts as being comfortable, a small feature, but nice nevertheless.
The Guyot Nalgene Standard Bottle is well made, and if I have deduced correctly, is probably the best design for a bottle to boil water in, as the weld is in the top of the bottle. It fits the GSI Cup, which adds quite a bit of functionality.... Who wants to take a boiling hot bottle and try to drink out of it? But, with the accessory cup, you can boil in the bottle and pour your libation into the cup, even if you aren't a heathen.
Anyway, all my thoughts for now...
How about some images?
The bottle, all alone...
The bottle, on it's own, in a GSI cup.
The bottle, Humangear capCap installed, with the GSI Cup...
A view of the business end, in comparison to the Nalgene with Splash Guard...
A view of the business end, showing the nozzle (from which sweet water will be imbibed) of the Humangear capCap...
Continuing in next post...
Then came the cries about the plastic in the Nalgene Lexan bottles. And honestly, at first it sounded like alarmist pap. Add to that, the fact that the hordes of people who were talking about it, all had that "Prophet of the Desert" sort of zeal, which always turns me off, (I never have watched Titanic, for that very reason) and it all just turned into blah, blah, blah... But, then the scientific data started to come in.... And I thought why not, so I turned my old bottles into pen and tool holders, and bought the new Tritan bottles.
Oh yeah, and part of the issue was, I never really had a huge problem, because I had a whole bunch of the HDPE Nalgene bottles, and they were never a problem, and still aren't.
The concerns over the Nalgene Lexan Bottles of course helped Klean Kanteen, as they offered the 'safe' alternative. But, I am not a joiner, I either early adopt, or I tend to have a very laissez faire approach to change. So, I took my time, and thought it through, and considered what I really wanted and NEEDED. And, all the smug metro boobs carrying aluminium fuel bottles and preaching about Klean Kanteens did nothing to encourage my use of the type.
Which brings me to the present, or the near past. Recently, I started to pay attention to a couple threads about stainless steel bottles.
And at the same time, I was watching something, or thinking about long term use in the out of doors, and I began to consider the fact that steel is simply more durable than plastic. So, if I was out of doors for an extended time, the HDPE and Tritan Nalgene bottles would start to approach their service life at a rate that could be concerning.
The seed had been sown, and I began to seriously consider buying a steel bottle.
Now, despite Klean Kanteen being touted by some realy morons, they make a fine product, and the vast majority of their customers are fine people, my good friend Aaron, and my brother both own them, and they like them.
But, in my decision process, I decided that if I was going to buy a steel bottle, I wanted one that fit in the GSI Glacier Stainless Bottle Cup, of which I have a couple. Further, while I had given my Humangear capCap to my brother, I wanted another one, and I wanted the steel bottle to accept it.
At this point, I was browsing Two Wolves Outdoors(http://www.twowolvesoutdoor.com/), and I realized I could add a Guyot Nalgene Bottle to an order I was considering. So, through a string of emails, Lisa (LupaWolf on the BladeForums) was very helpful to answer my questions, and with some continuing reading I found that the Guyot Nalgene would in fact meet my conditions. Then, Lisa of Two Wolves Outdoors informed me that they would begin stocking the Humangear capCap... And the decision was made.
And, the rest is really anti-climatic, as the Guyot Nalgene Standard Bottle and humangear capCap are quite nice. They will work perfectly.
The Humangear capCap is a joy to use. It does away with the splash guard, which I never really cared for, and actually adds some nice features. With it you have the best of both worlds, the Guyot Nalgene it fits offers a wide mouth for filling, cleaning and a wide mouth that will fit many water filters. I verified, and it fits my Katadyn Vario perfectly. And then the capCap adds splash protection, and keeps your nose out of the bottle, which can be a real pain for some. Humangear also touts their connecting strap between the two parts as being comfortable, a small feature, but nice nevertheless.
The Guyot Nalgene Standard Bottle is well made, and if I have deduced correctly, is probably the best design for a bottle to boil water in, as the weld is in the top of the bottle. It fits the GSI Cup, which adds quite a bit of functionality.... Who wants to take a boiling hot bottle and try to drink out of it? But, with the accessory cup, you can boil in the bottle and pour your libation into the cup, even if you aren't a heathen.
Anyway, all my thoughts for now...
How about some images?
The bottle, all alone...
The bottle, on it's own, in a GSI cup.
The bottle, Humangear capCap installed, with the GSI Cup...
A view of the business end, in comparison to the Nalgene with Splash Guard...
A view of the business end, showing the nozzle (from which sweet water will be imbibed) of the Humangear capCap...
Continuing in next post...
