Titanium Profile Modified Scales for the ENDELA

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It’s been just over two years since I began negotiations with a specialized offshore machining entity to produce my modified Spyderco scale designs in 6AL4V titanium. This was an undertaking I had first given thought to starting back in early 2018 and finally took the first steps of this journey in December of 2019. The pandemic didn’t help the situation but the amount of time to get to where things are now had more to do with funding than anything else.



I made the decision to use my PROMOD Endela/Military design as the first of four designs I hope to have produced in titanium. These will be 2D scales CNC machined in a tip up… right hand carry configuration… with lanyard hole. Funding again has forced a compromise where I had to abandon having a machined titanium back spacer. That will be revisited in the future if these titanium scale sets find a market demand.



Attempting to handle an endeavor such as this strictly by phone and email has been difficult, frustrating and at times infuriating… but after a great many months of zero progress a bit of positive momentum finally has taken place. We have fixed the per unit cost and the minimum order quantity threshold. My CAD and CAM files have been converted to the requested formats and were sent to the machining facility the last week of April of this year. As of May 25th two sets of prototype scales have been machined and were shipped to my location for fit and finish evaluation. They arrived several days ago and in checking the fit, finish and comfort I determined that an edge chamfer was needed as the scales as machined caused hand discomfort when gripped strongly.



Rather than suffer any further delays that requesting a second prototype set with a 45 degree edge chamfer would cause I thought I’d attempt hand filing a chamfer. Metal work is not my forte and I quickly discovered titanium is difficult to work. It took considerably more effort than I anticipated however I was able to achieve a reasonable result. At least one that proved to me that an edge chamfer provided the desired comfort. All scale sets in the production run will have a machined edge chamfer and will look considerably better than my hand filed efforts.



Here are several photos of the prototype Ti scales. The first photo is of the two scales sets fresh off the CNC. The remaining photos are of an assembled knife sporting my hand filed chamfer on the presentation side scale only.





More as it happens…

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Looks good!
I already did a scale swap on my Endela; but I still never carry it. Maybe these would get it some pocket time.
Are you willing to share what the other three models would be, if this venture is a success?
 
To fully illustrate the degree of chamfer I desired I created and sent along a couple of CAD renders to the machinist. I was a bit too aggressive in hand filing the chamfer on the prototype scales. Hopefully the renders will achieve the result I'm looking for.

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Are you willing to share what the other three models would be, if this venture is a success?

With some luck I'll follow up with having the Delica/Lil'Para, the Delica/Militia and the Endela/Paramilitary machined in titanium.
 
The first production run went in the queue for machining on June 28th. Patiently playing the waiting game for the announcement of order completion and shipment.

Plans are for some additional finish work on arrival here at the shop in the form of heat coloring.
I'll announce availability here on the Forum and will offer scale sets and or completed knives for purchase in the Marketplace as I complete them.
 
The first production run went in the queue for machining on June 28th. Patiently playing the waiting game for the announcement of order completion and shipment.

Plans are for some additional finish work on arrival here at the shop in the form of heat coloring.
I'll announce availability here on the Forum and will offer scale sets and or completed knives for purchase in the Marketplace as I complete them.
Any idea on the pricing? If you're allowed to/want to say.
 
Pricing is still not set. I'm hoping to keep them affordable... and shooting for something between $65 to $70 but the custom fees on the order shipment will be the last data point needed to determine final fixed price.
 
UPDATE: Just received word that the first batch of my custom ENDELA profile modified titanium scales have been machined and package for shipment. DHL is handling the transport so hopefully in a couple days I should have them in hand. That's assuming Customs doesn't gum things up...

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These look great! Will they replace the FRN of the Endela LW's? I'd love to know when they become available. Thanks!
 
I managed to carve out some time to unpack and inspect my first batch of machined titanium scales for the PROMOD Endela/Military. At first blush everything looked quite acceptable but it's not hard to miss that the edge chamfer I requested is less than I called out for after viewing the prototypes. I even sent a CAD render to illustrate the degree of edge relief I was wanting just in case the English word 'slight' did not translate appropriately in the machinists native language. That still didn't get me the chamfer I was looking for. I got what I would call minuscule versus slight. Acceptable... but I'm certain this can be remedied if I have a second run machined.

So I attempted to perform an ENTROPIC anodizing to these first production pair of scales and ended up with a mixed review result. I didn't achieve the vibrant colors I was wanting but possibly that is just a temperature issue. I got more brown than purple in this attempt. Possibly the walnut shell blasted matte surface finish versus polished had some effect. I'll make more attempts and maybe increased heat is all that is necessary to get to what I'm looking for.


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I would buy those Steve, if interested in selling.
Please let me know
regards
Mark
 
Your first attempt at anodizing would look just fine on my 20cv Endela
 
So I've been informed that my first heat coloring attempt with these titanium scales didn't achieve the vibrant hues I was looking for due to reduced temps. I'll be needing 775 to 1050 degrees F to produce the purples and blues that I desire. I was too tentative and overly cautious in my propane torching of this first set. It's such a random process that this might take my stepping out of my comfort zone. I'll keep trying...

The first production set of scales are done and I've assembled a complete knife. I'm awaiting delivery of a fade anodized long Ti Lynch pocket clip to finish thing off. I'll be putting this knife on to the Marketplace once I receive the clip and get a couple of photos with it installed...

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After spending additional time attempting to achieve an Entropic anodizing I abandoned the idea and de-anodized the scales... taking them back to the natural Ti. I then torched them and managed to take them into a blue hue region and stopped there. I didn't perform the hot acid dunking. Heat anodizing is a fickle process with huge degrees for a less than desirable outcome due to inconsistent temperature control with the propane torch. I think the electrolytic wet finishing process would be a better approach with greater consistency and repeatability... but I'm not going to invest the time and money for that.

I've got a bit more playing around to do before I decide just how I will offer the scales... heat colored or natural.

Here's some shots of the blue blush heat anodized set assembled with a Lynch fade anodized long Ti clip...DSC_4609.JPGDSC_4613.JPGDSC_4616.JPGDSC_4620.JPGDSC_4623.JPG
 
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