? to OKC about 22" machete steel...

PocketKnifeJimmy

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I asked this question on the General Discussion forum, but I was directed for it to be asked here for a definite answer.
The Ontario 8519 machete I purchased is labled as being in 1095, but the OKC website only shows a model 8518 being offered (which is listed as being in 1075). Are both steels being offered for your machetes? If so, is the 1095 still the core steel for your machete line, or is it now the 1075 steel (with the 1095 being offered now on a limited basis for certain models)?
Here is a link to my original post with pics of the info found on the machetes cardboard sleeve...

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...5-steel-for-22-machete.1562012/#post-17948043

Also, if you could possibly share your personal views on the pros and cons between these two steels on your machetes.

Thanks in advance for any insight you can share on this matter :)
 
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PKJ,

We do a lot of metallurgical testing and review concerning the type of steel and properties and how it relates to quality issues. We have come to the conclusion that 1075 is a better steel for the vast majority of our knives. 1075 still has sufficient carbon to produce a nicely hardened blade, it has good edge retention and it also has a lot more toughness to hold up to the impact that working knives (machetes) see on a continued basis. That is the reason for the change. Our Military contract knives still will use 1095 but any knife/tool that is not under specification has been changed to 1075. I think you will find a lot less chipping and breakage with the 1075 steel. Dan Maragni and I could bore you with Metallurgical mumbo-Jumbo but ultimately we like not having to deal with broken blades under warranty and we think you will also.
Hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Paul Tsujimoto
V.P. of Engineering
Ontario Knife Comapany
 
Thank you for the info/insight! :)
As for my 22" Ontario machete, was it incorrectly marked on it's packaging? The Ontario packaging sleeve has the steel listed as being 1095 and the model as being #8519 on it's upc. What would be the difference between model 8518 & model 8519? The upc also has a date stamp of February 2018 (manufacture or factory shipped date?). So it would seem to be recent enough to be a 1075 version? What steel is my machete made of, and if not 1095, why is the packaging listing it as such? Thanks in advance.
 
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really cool news , i though that 1075 is better than 1095 on making hard use big knives(chopper).
is there any difference of 1095 and 1075 version from looks ，if i want to buy 1075 machetes ?
and does sp line knives changed to 1075?
 
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Well that's one big statement from Tooj and supported by Dan The Man, better product with better steel for the correct tools is always good!
 
Just want to add a few more questions on this subject, and I do appreciate your time/effort in answering our questions.
Well, I again hope you can help me with knowing what the situation is with my latest Ontario 22" machete purchase. As I had stated above, it's a recent 2018 Ontario made product, but all the company info on the sleeve packaging is stating 1095 carbon steel rather than 1075. So, are there still some 22" 1095 versions being offered, or is my specimen simply incorrectly labled (on the upc label and company's sleeve packaging)?
Also, I have not seen any steel specs changes on dealer websites offering your SP series, like the SP-10 Marine Raider bowie (a model I have a two of). Is it now fact that any newly made sp series knife (except maybe those that may be using mil-spec contract style blades) are now a 1075 steel product?
In other words, (for example), are ALL newly made SP10 Marine Raider bowies now made of 1075?
Much thanks in advance :)
 
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Maybe some thing that goes through impacticus whachticus, forgive my technical terms, like the SPAXE might go 1075, like the RD HAWK is.
 
Well, I just placed an order for an Ontario SP5. The vender is the same that I purchased the Ontario machete from. And, they list the SP5 as also being in 1095 steel. A glance at the Ontario website, also lists the SP5 as 1095 steel. I would have imagined that a model like the sp5 would be one of the first candidates in their large knife line to get the switch to 1075?
 
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