Tramontina Damascus Kitchen Knife set

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First, an acknowledgement - tomthebaker posted about this back in Nov/2012 -
Unbelievably inexpensive but very good chef knife set!




This set is still freely available - via Sam's Club auctions where most of the bids I have seen were under $32 -
I am not a Sam's Club member but there probably is a shipping charge -
and I believe most of the bids are from and won by Amazon Marketplace vendors.

There's where I bought mine from - prices as low as under $56 shipped - this is less than the price for a single Damascus Santoku or Chef's knife.

Included with the set is a heavy black painted wood knife drawer block -

It is not really space efficient - and would probably take up most of a standard kitchen drawer.
So I don't use it as such - but lean the block vertically (knife tip up) on my kitchen counter against the wall -
at such an angle that there is little chance of the block toppling or any of the knives falling out,
I actually like using the block this way.

These are VG10 stainless steel core with 66-layer stainless Damascus cladding - VG10 is one of the finest stainless steel for cutlery. At one time only available on Japanese made knives - but these are made in China.

Although many will say the Damascus is merely decorative - cladding a harder (more brittle) steel has been a tradition in Japanese bladesmithing and cladding/sandwiching (eg: San-Mai) does serve a purpose of giving the core toughness/strength.

The knives all have bolsters and end caps. The handles are basically pakkawood (epoxy resin laminated wood) humorously called "Polywood".


There are 4 knives -


7.5" Chefs - this is narrower than the typical Western Chef - so closer to a Japanese Gyuto, heavy at 8.64oz. Even though it is sharp, it is not quite as good as a typical Western 8" Chef's knife - eg: the Victorinox 8" Fibrox Chef 40520


7" Santoku - with Granton or scalloped (hollow ground) edge.


All the knives are pretty heavy/hefty - for example the Santoku weighs in at 8.27oz compared to the Shun DM0702 Santoku (non scalloped edge) at 7.25oz. The blade is thicker behind the edge than the Shun - which normally is not a good thing - but these knives have a wide bevel that is continuously convex - without any shoulder to the blade face - this is a very good thing - as the blade and edge presents less resistance to cutting through things.

The cutting ability for soft foods is very comparable to the Shun DM0702 Santoku - a $125 knife.

5.5" Utility -

this is really heavy/hefty at 6.5oz - it almost feels like field/hunting knife - being heavy/hefty may seem to the a sign of quality (more material etc) but it is not so good. Utility knives are supposed to be for more delicate cutting when a Chef (or Santoku) may be too large....
in fact the handle on this utility knife is the same size as on the 7.5" chef.


4" Paring knife -

most paring knives are closer to 3" - so again this is quite substantial/heavy/hefty at 3.2oz - again not such a good thing - especially for what a paring knife is supposed to be used for, peeling and making even more delicate cuts - but at least this has a smaller narrower handle. The size is really closer to a typical shorter utility knife - it's a bit too short for me as a utility and way too big and heavy to use as a paring knife.

The Santoku interested me the least - but turns out really to be the best knife of the set for me - it's too heavy, but does cut really well.

Overall this is an amazing value for money set - the knives hold up well even against well reputed expensive premium knives - they are heavy and the handles are a bit large on the smaller knives - but that is merely my taste and may suit others better.

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Great review! Thanks for referencing my post.

I'm still using mine often. One of the household females ( who shall remain nameless) ran one through the dishwasher. It developed a small bit of surface rust, which cleaned right up, and the handle surface predictably roughened.

I'm still enjoying mine, although I keep some heavier blades and cleavers around for poultry bones and such.
 
Thanks tomthebaker -
I first came across these Tramontina doing a general search for vg10 damascus santokus -
it popped up on Amazon and doing a google for Tramontina Damascus -
finds both the Sam's Club Auction as well as your thread.

There was basically a dearth of information on this set -
your thread was so helpful in finding out more details and seeing photos of the actual knives.

Strangely enough despite my caveats - I am using the Tramontina Damascus Santoku a lot -
it's almost my go to "chef" type knife -
I do have many other santokus that I would prefer -
eg: my favorite is the Shigeki Tanaka vg10 Damascus santoku with wa/Japanese ho wood handle

this probably can be regarded as a class above these Tramontina Damascus.

But I persistently reach for the Tramontina - possibly because it is lower maintenance -
whereas with the Tanaka I have to make sure the ho wood handle is is kept in good condition -
not exactly a chore - but just that little bit less convenient.

Thanks for your input.

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Just a quick follow up.

I thought it may have been because these were incredibly inexpensive that made me reach for these knives often -
but I think it may be more -
even if I think they are less than ideal compared to my other/similar knives.

This is hard to explain logically.

Yes, these knives are incredibly inexpensive - fantastic value -
but just because they are cheap does not mean I would end up using them.

Lower cost helps sometimes not to baby them -
unlike an expensive item where there might be a hesitance or reluctance to use them regularly (that may be just me :o)

But I find I am using the Tramontina Damascus Santoku over my favorite Shigeki Tanaka handmade vg10 Damascus Santoku (with wa ho wood handle).
I think the Tanaka is a much superior knife overall - it is sharper and cuts better -
but the Tramontina is not far behind -
and probably for my cutting, food prep it may not make much of a difference.
(I also have the Shun DM0702 non-Granton Santoku which was a benchmark of sorts - I like it - but find other Santokus suit me better including the $6 Another Santoku (cheap) )

I still think the Tramontina is heavy - but it's not that heavy that I find it a detriment -
oh, I do much prefer the Tanaka weight at all of 3.91oz - which helps (me) with precise and more delicate cuts.

But I use the Tramontina more now - even though I know it is not as precise or delicate cut as the Tanaka -
because for more precision/delicate cuts I would use a utility knife or even paring, anyway.....

Part of my preference may be less maintenance as mentioned previously.

Utility - I don't use the Tramontina - but my SETO "mini santoku" - it's 135mm or 5.3" - close to ideal length for me - it just is much more suited for the task than the Tramontina - which I find too hefty and cumbersome.
I do use the Tramontina Utility more as a mini Chef's knife - although it looks good on paper - it's probably my least favorite of the these.

I do use the Tramontina Paring - but more as a small utility - although it's hard to displace the SETO - sometimes it's useful to have a shorter and narrower blade.

I hadn't forgotten about the 7.5" Chef - I don't use it that much - as I prefer a Santoku for my chef type knife - but I will use it for splitting up food like say a cheese block - having the extra length and heft is actually an advantage for these tasks - but I use the Santoku a lot more.

So as can be seen I am using these a lot and regularly - having the block on the counter (vertically leaning against the wall) makes them very accessible - therefore easy to reach - my other knives mentioned are in a more traditional oak knife block equally accessible - but often my preference is the Tramontina.

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Excellent review, I really can't help but admire them after it. VG-10 is one of my very favorite steels, and this Damascus is very pleasing to the eye. My mom has a set of Tramontina kitchen knives from some time ago that she thinks highly of. Had no idea Tramontina made anything in China, though that's not an indicator of quality.
 
Excellent review, I really can't help but admire them after it. VG-10 is one of my very favorite steels, and this Damascus is very pleasing to the eye. My mom has a set of Tramontina kitchen knives from some time ago that she thinks highly of. Had no idea Tramontina made anything in China, though that's not an indicator of quality.

Many thanks for your response, appreciated.

On quality - I am not claiming these are the "bestest" -
but I do have quite a few premium/world class and/or highly rated Santokus to compare directly - including
Japanese
Shigeki Tanaka vg10 Damascus (handmade)
Shun Classic DM0702 (non-Granton)
Yaxell Ran Damascus 165mm
SETO I-5 tsuchime/hammered Damascus
Western
Wusthof 4183-7 Granton (top rated -eg: Amazon)
Victorinox 41529 Fibrox Granton
Victorinox 7.7323.17G forged Granton

It may be initial infatuation or lower maintenance but the Tramontina Damascus Santoku is the one I use the most -
even over my favorite (and I think in a class above) handmade Shigeki Tanaka vg10 Damascus.

The convex edge does make a huge difference in the cutting ability -
and I am not talking about sharpness of the typical shallow cut tests like shaving hair or slicing paper - which only really tests the very edge -
but a kitchen knife is a lot more than that - it has to have the ability to cut through cleanly and easily - hence the importance of those convex edges.

Of course just because a knife has a convex edge does not make it good one -
otherwise I could put a convex edge on any knife then it would be a world class knife? -
not so fast.....
I have actually done that - please see the thread:
$1 Santoku - BUT please read Post #7
and
Sabatier 7" Forged Santoku
but sometimes one can get lucky - another Santoku (cheap)

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This set is still freely available - via Sam's Club auctions where most of the bids I have seen were under $32 -
I am not a Sam's Club member but there probably is a shipping charge -
and I believe most of the bids are from and won by Amazon Marketplace vendors.
... There's where I bought mine from - prices as low as under $56 shipped

I think the days of low prices on this set may be coming to a close.
Sam's Club Auctions are no longer showing any of these on auction,
and the Amazon Marketplace vendors are no longer vying with each other to show the lowest price+shipping
- the prices there are creeping up.

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Thanks for your review - I just bought the set for a friend who currently uses some ikea trash in the kitchen (just, bad. not all ikea, but these, bad) Very excited to get him into a new class of knives without breaking my bank!

Well done sir!:thumbup:
 
I just got a new toy - it's a cheapo usb microscope (from fleaBay) about $25 shipped -
it's supposed to do 25-200x magnification
and the best thing is it can capture photos.

I think it is really only native resolution of 640x480 pixels ie: about 0.3Mp
but the capture software interpolates the picture to a minimum of 2.0Mp
Regardless of that, I reseize the pics back down to 640x480 pixels - hopefully without any loss or anomalies/artifacts.

But this gives me an opportunity to examine and take close up photos of knife edges.

As mentioned in my review the Tramontina Santoku seems to cut as well as my favorite (Shigeki) Tanaka handmade vg10 Damascus Santoku.
The Tramontina is definitely thicker behind the edge than the Tanaka -
so why?


this is about ~110X magnification from my calculations.
one can see that there is no separate hard edge bevel - it is wide and continuously convex.
I have not done any sharpening of the Tramontina only light honing with a plain steel.

Compare to the (Shigeki) Tanaka Santoku

one can see a separate micro-bevel - I have used a belt sharpener and put a convex micro-bevel at ~15deg/side on this.

There are various other things that would tend to make the Tanaka better at cutting through food like the whole blade face is convex - it is very thin behind the edge and I have now made the micro-bevel a convex too -
but surprisingly the Tramontina cuts just about as well.... seems like the advantage of a continuous convex bevel.

Now this is a very high level of performance -
I would put the Tanaka at a class well above the Tramontina -
in fact I would go as far to say the Tanaka is a world class knife, and one of the very best kitchen knives I own.

So this is "praise" indeed for the Tramontina.

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