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Victorinox OHO trekker liner lock backwards?
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not quite sure what you mean since I've only held a trekker for long enough to give it to its intended gift recipient, since it kept trying to get into my pocket instead!
There are a couple of thoughts, one is as far as I remember, the bottle-opener/pry has a lock on that liner layer as well, and that might have led to the design, the other thing is that due to the Vic having a backspring and snapping closed, the Vic method is a two hand close, rather than the normal thumb and forefinger close that most knives use.
There are a couple of thoughts, one is as far as I remember, the bottle-opener/pry has a lock on that liner layer as well, and that might have led to the design, the other thing is that due to the Vic having a backspring and snapping closed, the Vic method is a two hand close, rather than the normal thumb and forefinger close that most knives use.
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When I figured out mine was backwards I was a little embarrassed to find out how easy it was after trying for a minute to close the durn thing. It takes some practice, but one hand closing is easy enough. It doesn't bother me, but its also definitely just a safety feature- there's a noticeable amount of play before the liner stops it. I would rather they locked the saw blade so it doesn't fold up during use. Also yes the same liner does lock the bottle opener, its very helpful when using it as a screwdriver. Maybe someone in upper management at Victorinox is a lefty?
The Vic Trekker is probably one of my favorite models. Does anybody know if they make one with everything the trekker has, plus pliers?
The Vic Trekker is probably one of my favorite models. Does anybody know if they make one with everything the trekker has, plus pliers?
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The Hercules but it's the (non OHO) button lock design.
Still a solid knife just not a liner lock model.
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The Hercules but it's the (non OHO) button lock design.
Still a solid knife just not a liner lock model.
Pliers and scissors, awesome! I had wanted OHO and only four layers so I could still comfortably pocket carry it, but I'm still going to have to get one of those eventually.
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Yes, it's backwards. Perfect for lefties, so this is their revenge! I reviewed my GAK/Trekker here, and explained that I have taken to closing the knife in a similar fashion to a lockback, starting the closing with the thumb on the press-stud, one handed, and finishing with the back of the blade against my leg.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1199045-Mini-Review-Victorinox-Trekker-German-Army-Knife?highlight=gak
Zieg
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1199045-Mini-Review-Victorinox-Trekker-German-Army-Knife?highlight=gak
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My method is to push in on the liner lock with forefinger while pressing with thumb against the spine hump to lower the blade a bit, then push the hump with forefinger to lower the blade the rest of the way. With a bit of practice it becomes second nature.
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I have been carrying mine since 2001, right handed, no problems. I also like the fact that the screw driver locks, as I never had a SAK blade close on me, but have had a screw driver close. John
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I don't know if everyone does it this way, but for closing I just rotate the knife a little to where my index finger is resting on the spine of the blade, then instead of pushing the liner lock I pull it towards me with my thumb, then push the blade with my index finger, while moving my thumb back to the side. Now its not really any harder than any other liner lock, once I'm holding the knife my hand sort of knows what to do. It only feels weird when I'm thinking about it while doing it. Reading this has made me decide to give it a pocket clip and add it to my rotation, its just a great knife!
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Try as I might, my hand won't cooperate on this manoeuvre. Only left handed can I close it with one hand. But this does not detract from the knife overall. Excellent piece of kit. If only it had a hoof pick. Then it would be perfect for me.
Zieg
Vic has the backward liner lock on most of their locking knives. I have a Sentinel with that lock and a Hunter something-something. The Hunter has the backward lock on the main blade and a normal lock on the saw. It is confusing, but I guess I would get used to it if I carried either knife enough, which I don't. Guess I only bought them because they were bargains, or seemed to be.
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This is Victorinox's idea of the safe way to close their locking blade knives:
The knife in their illustration has a slider lock. I am right handed, and I close a slider lock Victorinox by releasing the lock with my index finger and closing the blade against my leg. It is easier. I close Victorinox's liner locks per their illustration, because it is the line of least resistance.
This is from an email from Victorinox to sakwiki.com in response to a question on the strength of the slide lock, August 2008. It is marginal to this discussion but interesting.
The blade releases via the slider on the rear shell of the handle. It is comfortably and easy to operate and as you mentioned only for accidental closing. The bestsellers in this series are the Picnicker, Rucksack and the Outrider. The model Workchamp XL is aimed at knife collectors.
At the moment we are developing an improving the spring for the locking blade and slider system. During testing of an material sample the stress strain curve is a graphical representation of the relationship between stress,derived from measuring the load applied on the sample and strain derived from measuring the deformation of the sample i.e. elongation, compression, or distortion. Steel generally exhibits a very linear stress-strain relationship up to a well defined yield point. The linear portion of the curve is in the elastic region and the slope is the modulus of elasticity or Young`s modulus. A torque in physics, also called moment, is a vector that measures the tendency of a force to rotate an object about some axis(center). The magnitude of a torque is defined as the product of a force and the length of the lever arm(radius) M=FxI. To stay in the elastic region a torque of maximum 10,8Nm should not be exceeded.
However we found them to be insufficiently robust and sturdy for the fire brigades, the rescue services the police and army forces. For this reason we developed a knife (0,83-0,84) of the same shape and size but much stronger, with thicker rivets and blades, Liner-lock for the blade and powerful screwdriver. In this range you will find the Victorinox lock blade for one hand opening (e.g. Rescuetool ).
The knife in their illustration has a slider lock. I am right handed, and I close a slider lock Victorinox by releasing the lock with my index finger and closing the blade against my leg. It is easier. I close Victorinox's liner locks per their illustration, because it is the line of least resistance.
This is from an email from Victorinox to sakwiki.com in response to a question on the strength of the slide lock, August 2008. It is marginal to this discussion but interesting.
The blade releases via the slider on the rear shell of the handle. It is comfortably and easy to operate and as you mentioned only for accidental closing. The bestsellers in this series are the Picnicker, Rucksack and the Outrider. The model Workchamp XL is aimed at knife collectors.
At the moment we are developing an improving the spring for the locking blade and slider system. During testing of an material sample the stress strain curve is a graphical representation of the relationship between stress,derived from measuring the load applied on the sample and strain derived from measuring the deformation of the sample i.e. elongation, compression, or distortion. Steel generally exhibits a very linear stress-strain relationship up to a well defined yield point. The linear portion of the curve is in the elastic region and the slope is the modulus of elasticity or Young`s modulus. A torque in physics, also called moment, is a vector that measures the tendency of a force to rotate an object about some axis(center). The magnitude of a torque is defined as the product of a force and the length of the lever arm(radius) M=FxI. To stay in the elastic region a torque of maximum 10,8Nm should not be exceeded.
However we found them to be insufficiently robust and sturdy for the fire brigades, the rescue services the police and army forces. For this reason we developed a knife (0,83-0,84) of the same shape and size but much stronger, with thicker rivets and blades, Liner-lock for the blade and powerful screwdriver. In this range you will find the Victorinox lock blade for one hand opening (e.g. Rescuetool ).
