VINTAGE Sabatier knife, fix?

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So I have this knife that I wonder if it can be fixed. It was sent out to be sharpened a long time ago and came back looking pretty much like it did in the photo I'm showing you.
(For those like me that would not like to read all the extraneous background details, just skip to the last paragraph. Scroll down.)

So first a little background on the knif. Back in the 60s -70s my father was a restaurant supply salesman. I've been cooking since I was young, and started working in restaurants when I was 15yo. After finishing a Culinary Vo-Tech program, and getting my first position of sous chef, my father gave me his sample kit, which was basically a professional cutlery set in a knife roll case. One of everything you could need for the professional chef. And they were 3 Brands, a few of the smaller knives being doubled. The brands were Wuesthoff, Sabatine and Henkell. After a couple of years, I found myself working at a new restaurant asas the head chef. It was an Italian restaurant which had a pizzeria on one side of the building. The owner, my boss was one of the two Pizza makers. I wouldn't get there until 10:30, the restaurant part open from 11 a.m. to 9:30 p.m.. well I don't know how it happened but somebody open up and borrowed the Sabatine knife, when I wasn't there and it got mixed in with the other crappy knives that get picked up to be sharpened, which happened every couple of weeks, on a Monday when we're not open. It came back looking like what you see in the photo. I believe it was a boning knife but they removed (ground down) the guard which was part of the stainless steel blade. I hardly ever used it before then and since then almost never because I was afraid if I was ever to slide my hand down the handle I would get cut. And mostly use it as if it was a really big paring knife if I ever do use it. Anyway I also lost my cleaver which was never found and to the hardly ever used it I don't remember what it was. Again I was told that nobody grabbed my knife but I don't understand how just those two were taken out of my knife roll when I wasn't there, I don't think the people would do that, anyway. So recently I inherited some kitchenware from a relative and amongst it was cleaver but the really crappy handle. It was a nice small size clear that I liked using and I've been using a lot and I want to look into what it would cost to put a new handle on it. And that's how this whole idea got started. While looking into people rehandling Cutler online I saw knives that had handles which contained a guard within the handle for the boning knife. So I thought in addition to having the cleaver fix maybe I can have a new handle put on my supper tonight that was destroyed and be able to use it again fearlessly. Is he also the knife had a slightly shorter handle that I would be comfortable with. Especially not having the guard there. Same with the cleaver. Anyway not going to go to the whole long story about why I'm where I am at my life but I'm getting back into culinary as a way to make income. Starting off catering small events. I wanted to have the cleaver we handled them sharpened and added to my knife roll and maybe get the phone and I fixed as well. Unfortunately I don't believe the prices that I'm being quoted. For the cleaver alone asked for between 130 to $170 just to sharpen and put a new handle on it. Two of the five sources I've spoken to say the boning knife can't be fixed there's nothing that can be done. And they don't like the idea of making a handle that has a guard in it because there will be no peace from the Tang in between the scales. And only one place got back to me say that they'll do it for $160. Does anybody know of a considerably cheaper alternative or is this about average or slightly slightly they're above? I was even hoping maybe I could find somebody that wants to do this type of repair on a YouTube channel to show it being done in a video where they could profit off of from there Channel. Anywhere I seen somebody recently replace a handle on a Henckel knife and he added a guard where there wasn't one on the wooden handle before just filled in the void with epoxy. Contacted him but he doesn't do work for other people just for himself. Unfortunately I don't have a shop to do this repair myself, just having a tiny apartment with the only workspace being the tailgate of my truck.
Can anybody suggest somebody or somplace who could do the handles for cheap? I have wood that I could provide, Red Oak or Walnut for the handle material. Actually have a lot of other Hardwoods too but I thought the two that I listed would be the best, since also the ash that I have is not fully dry yet. I even have a bunch of epoxy tubes.

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Anyway I doubt anybody is with a workshop near me and would allow me to use it, so I'm wondering if anybody has any suggestions of people or places that I could call or email and ask for quotes?
Also can you please tell me what I should be expecting to spend?
This is the damaged Sabatier knife that I have.
This picture is showing a knife with a handle like what I think would be a good type of handle that it needs. Maybe with a more pronounced guard.
Here is my Cleaver that also needs a handel.
 
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There are some talented folks here hopefully someone can at a minimum point you in the right direction.....best of luck to you
 
Honestly unless some sentimental value those are beyond economical repair. You could buy replacements for less than repair costs. Tramontina is a low cost cleaver, the boning looks so badly ground even if a handle was made the re profiling may still not be a great cutter. Handle replacing takes a fair chunk of labor time so that is why it is so expensive. The material cost for handle replacing, unless fancy wood, isn't very much in the overall scheme.
 
I only repair my own knives as well, and make a few for myself, so I’m not much help. You don’t need a knifesmith for the boner handle, I think a reasonably competent hobby woodworker could help you fix that, but I agree it’d be more work that it was worth unless the sentimental aspect really turned your crank. After that, regrind and polish by a knife mechanic should be affordable.

If you were in my county, and offered to bribe me with some good meals, here’s how we’d approach the handle:

1. Measure the thickness of the tang.

2. Select a sawblade that would cut a kerf that size or .005” wider. Test on scrap wood.

3. Remove handle slabs carefully by drilling out the brass rivets.

4. Cut the kerf partway into your oversized blank. The handle looks 1” or 1-1/8” wide, so 1-1/4” kerf into of a 1-5/8” blank, for example.

5. Grind the front of the tang straight to match the kerf.

6. Drill holes in handle for brass pins or rivets.

7. Epoxy kerfed handle around tang, aligning holes with test pins, clamp 24 hrs (remove test pins after initial clamping).

8. Cut front shape of handle, probably on the bandsaw, leaving min 1/8” web at top of kerf.

9. Round over corners and rough shape on disc and/or belt sander.

10. Install rivets or pins with epoxy.

11. Final shape

12. Apply finish of your choice to wood.

The sad thing is, after all that work, this county’s health dept. wouldn’t let you use that knife in a commercial kitchen. Stainless blades and synthetic handles, they’re hard over on that. Fine you for having a wood handle.

So the moral of the story is, don’t let your quality working tools fall into the hands of thieves and morons. Just as true in the food industry as in the construction industry. Take them with you if there’s no safe place, every time. PITA I know, but when they’re with you, you can control them. Sorry to hear of your loss.

Parker
 
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