watco danish oil or tru-oil

Watco danish oil finish or tru-oil

  • Danish oil

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • Tru-oil

    Votes: 6 60.0%

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    10
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Which one do you think is better for a wood handle finish?

Thanks.

Edit: Also, what wax do you use for oily woods that don't need finishing oil? Does pure beeswax work?
 
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for me it would depend on what type of knife it is. if its a working/use knife i would go for danish. if its to be collected and admired i would go with the gloss of the tru oil. danish is a below the surface finish, the tru oil is a below and above the surface finish. you can build it up to get gloss. but that also means it can get worn off and scratched.
 
I use more Danish oil than Truoil in general.
I think it also depends on the type of wood. In my experience Danish oil does really well with wood like Maple burl and Koa but it darkens some woods like Walnut burl too much. I have both around so sometimes if I don't like the way one is finishing I'll sand it down a bit and try the other. I also have Tung oil from Sutherland Welles that I'll use on wood like Ringed Gidgee. It's a bit glossier like Tru oil.
 
for me it would depend on what type of knife it is. if its a working/use knife i would go for danish. if its to be collected and admired i would go with the gloss of the tru oil. danish is a below the surface finish, the tru oil is a below and above the surface finish. you can build it up to get gloss. but that also means it can get worn off and scratched.

I thin the Tru oil 25-30%, a tip I got from Bruce bump. You get better penetration into the wood that way, with no drop in gloss. It just takes a few more coats to build up.
 
Watco is a thinner liquid and will soak more into the wood but can be more difficult to get that glossy finish. True Oil does not penetrate as much but makes a nice glossy finish. I use watco to seal the wood, 2 or 3 coats, then true oil if I want a built up finish.
 
Its been at least thirty years since I was literally immersed in Danish oil finishing when I majored in furniture design at RIT, using Watco on my own projects as well as large commercial projects for my professor, but I learned some amazing properties of oil finishing that many miss because they never go far enough into it. The big revelation came when one of the seniors was final buffing a cherry conference table and the finish was impeccable - looked nearly like a sprayed lacquer finish due to the chatoyance reflecting off the rope figure, and the gloss on the end grain of the 2" thick table. Found out that it was entirely oil finished, and he was buffing the sixth or seventh coat.
So basically the lesson learned (that I personally experienced as well) was that there are dissolved polymers in the oil, that fill pores and harden cells, but require multiple applications before you ever get the "build", which is not on the surface, but IN the wood. So what i am saying, is to apply as many coats with several days drying between each (wet sanding with oil in later coats) as you can, and you'll start to get that deep look.
The nice thing is that later formulations came out like Minwax Antique Oil finish, and evidently Tru-oil, that have higher solids content so you achieve filling / gloss faster with less time / coats. As with all film finishes, you want to let the last coat sit and dry for as long as possible (couple days to a week) in a warm area to fully harden, so that it takes a higher gloss when buffing.

Personally I hate oil finishes on light woods like maple, as it gets that disgusting orange gym floor look, and darkens walnut way too much as mentioned earlier. But Koa, Cherry, etc. are awesome in the way the oil enriches the color.
 
Its been at least thirty years since I was literally immersed in Danish oil finishing when I majored in furniture design at RIT, using Watco on my own projects as well as large commercial projects for my professor, but I learned some amazing properties of oil finishing that many miss because they never go far enough into it. The big revelation came when one of the seniors was final buffing a cherry conference table and the finish was impeccable - looked nearly like a sprayed lacquer finish due to the chatoyance reflecting off the rope figure, and the gloss on the end grain of the 2" thick table. Found out that it was entirely oil finished, and he was buffing the sixth or seventh coat.
So basically the lesson learned (that I personally experienced as well) was that there are dissolved polymers in the oil, that fill pores and harden cells, but require multiple applications before you ever get the "build", which is not on the surface, but IN the wood. So what i am saying, is to apply as many coats with several days drying between each (wet sanding with oil in later coats) as you can, and you'll start to get that deep look.
The nice thing is that later formulations came out like Minwax Antique Oil finish, and evidently Tru-oil, that have higher solids content so you achieve filling / gloss faster with less time / coats. As with all film finishes, you want to let the last coat sit and dry for as long as possible (couple days to a week) in a warm area to fully harden, so that it takes a higher gloss when buffing.

Personally I hate oil finishes on light woods like maple, as it gets that disgusting orange gym floor look, and darkens walnut way too much as mentioned earlier. But Koa, Cherry, etc. are awesome in the way the oil enriches the color.


I agree wholeheartedly. Seven to 12 coats is my average with danish oil. I much prefer the rubbed finishes to lacquer. I smile to myself when someone says they did three coats, as if that was a lot. I’ll takes two weeks to a month to do reasonably, and three months to do well.
 
Would Klean-Strip Paint thinner work? It says for "thinning oil based paint, stain and varnish" and made with mineral spirits.

Thanks all for the help. Happy New Year
 
Would Klean-Strip Paint thinner work? It says for "thinning oil based paint, stain and varnish" and made with mineral spirits.

Thanks all for the help. Happy New Year

Try a small amount and see. It would probably work based on the description.
 
Try Pro Custom oil. I prefer it to both Truoil and Danish oil. Trying to post a picture for you but to no avail
 
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I give up. I've been trying to post a picture for the last half hour. Imgur won't post for me and Flickr won't run on this tablet
 
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