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waterjet cutters

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by cjd1980, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Mike Turner

    Mike Turner

    Dec 8, 2005
    I too would suggest looking for a local waterjet company.

    I contacted Dave and he was quick getting back to me with a quote but he lost out to a local waterjet company in my area. If not for a huge difference in price and that I found a local guy I would have done business with Dave.

    The nice thing about the local guy is he gets my parts cut in 2-3 days and I get the skeletons back.
  2. strahd71


    Jan 26, 2006
    Dave i wanted to respond in this thread since I had posted before.
    i want to thank you for the generous offer, but i have to decline. I may indeed have you do the work, but if I do; i dont want anything for free, if you do my parts your gonna get paid, but thanks for the offer it means alot.

    I've gotten what i wanted now, and that was just some kind of response I'm happy now.

    to the rest of you concerning this thread good luck!

  3. Jim Adams Customs

    Jim Adams Customs Banned BANNED

    Jun 23, 2008
    David has my waterjet business as long as he wants it. His parts are spot on.
    He is a pleasure to do business with. My folder success has been because David made sure it would be. Thank you David!!!
  4. jaymeister99


    Sep 14, 2010
    Any ideas on the typical costs to have blades waterjet cut? I was planning on having 5-6 8.5" blades cut, 2 different patterns.

    Not looking for a quote, just a ballpark figure on the costs to waterjet patterns.
  5. richard j

    richard j

    Apr 1, 2007
    dave, you still owe me for sharpening your knives so how can you send me a 1099?
  6. grolaw


    Nov 8, 2004
    He can send you a 1099. Anybody can fill out a form. The rules are here: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1099msc.pdf

    Filing a false 1099 is a violation of 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1001.

    In my professional life I receive 1099's that are wildly incorrect - and it is legal. How? I'm an attorney and if my case settles rather than reach a jury verdict - the defendant paying the settlement doesn't know how much of the settlement would be attorney's fees, costs and the plaintiff's share.

    Costs are deductible from income (just as raw materials costs are deducted from the sales price to establish part of the basis for the profit from sale of a custom made knife), an attorney's fee agreement falls within the scope of attorney-client confidentiality and only the accountants and spouses find out how the settlement funds reported on a 1099 are divided. The IRS has increased reporting rules and we now have:
    But, Richard's dilemma is not so complex. A 1099 for "non-payment" *might* fall under a cancelled debt, see:
    But, then the taxable income goes to the individual who doesn't have to pay the "cancelled debt."

    All in all, if some fool intentionally sends a false 1099 - then the fool has exposed him/herself to federal criminal liability.

    Moreover, if the matter is based upon a failure to pay a debt - I'd presume that most small claims court judges would consider a 1099 a very interesting document in an action to collect a debt from the person issuing that 1099.

    *Nothing here is intended as legal advice. Seek your own attorney in your jurisdiction should you have a legal question. This information provided for educational purposes, only.*
  7. greatlakeswaterjet

    greatlakeswaterjet I really hate bladeforums. Which is why I still co

    Oct 8, 2007
    So Mr. Attorney, if the person did get paid and the payee has documents proving payment, the 1099 is valid and true. And while I'm at it, I could sue for defamation of character...at least that's what my attorney wants to do. So who if the fool you refereed to?
  8. Danbo

    Danbo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 28, 1999
    I have had blades cut out via waterjet twice, by two different people. One, was Dave from GLWJ; the other was a buddy who just happened to work for a company running a waterjet machine. The blades cut out by my friend were ok, but what I got back from Dave was much better as far as accuracy; Dave did a MUCH nicer job.

    Dave has my business. :thumbup:
  9. rocketmann


    Dec 24, 2005
    Dave did great work for me. He even helped with the design.:thumbup:
  10. JCaswell


    Mar 12, 2006
    I've used a few different waterjet vendors. Local and not.

    One local outfit did several hundred parts, scrapped some expensive material and adjusted the price (upward) upon delivery because of 'issues' he had. ----NEVER AGAIN. :mad:

    I like Halpern and have bought material from them in the past, but they seem pretty busy. The couple times I quoted parts I ended up having the parts done elsewhere and back by the time their quotes came in and they were pretty premium. I got the impression they didn't want to do it, which is fine. They seem to do very nice work, though.:eek:

    Dave at GLWJ has done a few projects for me and they were all fine. Good quality and fast service and good prices. He's also a very innovative guy with the WJ. The textrure/surface pattern stuff he's doing is very neat! He did some bronze washers for my EDX prototype run which turned out very nice. They were flat and true. I just had to skate them on one side to remove the small WJ burr. I only needed 50 or so and getting them stamped would involve big minimums--not what you're looking for in prototyping. Water-jetting the bronze washers was a good solution for specialty proto work I hadn't considered before Dave suggested it!:thumbup::)
  11. rayban


    Apr 14, 2007
    Hi ya Dave!!:thumbup:
  12. grolaw


    Nov 8, 2004
    If one follows the IRS rules - one does not violate the law.

    I merely stated the facts and opined that anybody who would file a false 1099 is a fool.

    You were not named as the hypothetical fool.

    Defamation requires monetary damages - and, where no accusation was made naming anybody (much less you) nobody has been damaged. No attorney would file a defamation action based upon my post.

    Hamlet, Scene ii

    As for litigation, perhaps you would find this of interest:

    Benjamin Franklin

    And, in a more modern form:
    Cooks County, The Who It's Hard 1982, lyrics by Pete Townshend

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