Wenger vs Victorinox

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Got some SAK questions for y'all. What are the differences in blade steels between Wenger and Victorinox? Why does the Wenger Soldier have a lanyard/key ring and the Victorinox doesn't,aren't they both supposed to be genuine military issue? Am I the only one who thinks that claims of Victorinox fit and finish superiority are bogus? Don't get me wrong I'm a HUGE fan of both makers I just think Wenger gets short changed because they are not marketed as well as the competitor.
 
My first SAK was a Wenger, bought at LLBeans. It was a pretty good tool, but the knife blade wouldn't take or keep an edge. It was way too soft, worthless for cutting. Next SAK was a Victorinox, and its knife blade was far far superior to the Wenger's. Rest of the stuff, not much to choose between them, IMO>
 
I carry a Victorinox Soldier every day of my life. Yes the Wegner added a Key loop for their civilian sales. I have the Victorinox because it si exactly like it is issued. I'm a victorinox fan. Wegner's have a smaller blade on most knives and I like the Victorinox look better.
 
I have a bunch of Victorinoxes and about 5 Wengers. IMO, Victorinox definitely IS better than Wegner in *overall* quality, fit/finish. Also I find the Victorinox knife blades take and hold a better edge, and the Victorinoxes in general are more streamlined in design.

This does not mean Wegner makes a poor product. Comparing to the vast majority of slip-joint manufacturers, Wegner is indeed very good quality. But I think Victorinox has the best overall QC, fit/finish, etc., especially considering the volume of product they put out daily. Some people can't really detect a difference, but I definitely can.

Jim
 
Victorinox is far superior to Wenger in fit and finish. I await any evidence to the contrary.
 
On non-lock models, Victorinox reamer (or awl, hole punch,etc) is much better than wenger. Also, Victorinox blades are slightly thicker in equivalent models.
Both are 'official" Swiss Army Knives but represent "politic" loyalty to nation's "German" ( Victorinox)and "French" sides (Wenger)
Martin
 
The first SAK i had was a victorinox spartan n i have had it 4 about 3 years then i got a handyman given 2 me also i had a wenger ranger with 10cm blade n a Phillips screwdriver i found when i used the ranger i useally had 2 sharpen the blade but the victorinox does hold the egde alot better so i carry the handyman with me
 
Originally posted by numberthree
Victorinox is far superior to Wenger in fit and finish. I await any evidence to the contrary.

I agree 100%. Victorinox is the original and true SAK. Wegener is a mere pretender to the throne.

As a Protectorate of the Secret Order of Swiss Army Knives, I can write with authority that Victorinox Rules!!!!

Stay Safe,
Chad
 
I own both brands, and IMHO, Wenger is a decent knock off of a true SAK. Another "Victorinox rules" vote.

Paul
 
Another V-Nox vote.
Better in these areas:
Blade hardness
Can opener w/sm.screwdriver
Awl/Reamer
Stronger springs, have had several Wengers develope "Lazy" blades

OK so there isn't a locking screwdriver on the officer model, minor issue.
I'm with Pizzini
Wenger
:barf:
Vnox:D
 
Originally posted by mnblade
Just FYI, this topic is <i>all over</i> the archives.

I second the motion - do a few searches, you'll get what you want.
 
Victorinox and Wenger both make fine quality knives, but each has its advantages over the other:

Vic knives are generally longer, which is good if you have really large hands, but bad for easy pocket-carry. The Wengers are shorter.

The Vic awl has a reamer which is useful, but the Wenger makes a more uniform and less ragged hole when used as a punch.

The Vic toothpick and tweezers are better than Wengers but Wenger puts them in a better location (on the liner side of the scales where they're less likely to slip out).

The can openers are different. Some prefer the Vic, some prefer the Wenger but they both will open a can very easily. I prefer the Wenger can opener because I can use the sharp beak for other purposes.

The Vic scissors take a larger bite and are'nt serrated so they cut smoother, but the Vic scissor spring sucks. Wenger has the better spring for the scissors and they are self-sharpening, but they do leave a toothy serrated edge on the cut material.

The Wenger cap-lifter/screwdriver locks when you push firmly down on it. This has probably saved alot of pinched fingers. Vic should adopt this locking mechanism.

Some of the Wenger pocket-knives have a locking main blade while only the large Vics do.

Some of the Wenger pocket-knives have serrated blades if you like those but not enough of the Wengers have a small pen-blade (I really like the small pen-blade but most of the Wengers replace it with a nail-file/nail cleaner).

The Vics generally have a thicker main blade on their pocketknives. This is good and bad depending on what you're cutting.

I have never had any problem getting a very sharp edge on either the Vics or the Wengers and I seriously doubt that there is any real difference between the steel and heat-treatment of the two.

Both Wenger and Victorinox have great customer service and lifetime warranties on all of their knives.

All in all, you can't go wrong with either one.

Good luck,
Allen.
 
I've owned both Victorinox and Wegner. I only own Victorinox now. After using both brands, the Vic just seems "better" in that tough to define manner that only comes with spending time with a knife. I realize this isn't much of an answer, but it is my opinion and I've never been wrong before. Just ask me.:D
 
@allenC
just a word to the Vic scissors-spring because i heard this a few times.
If the spring breaks at the Victorinox - easy change it.
If the spring breaks at the Wenger - buy a new knife.
Generaly I think the scissors on the Victorinox folders are the best of all folders with scissors at all.

If there would be self-sharpening scissors I could close my workshop. Every time you open and close a scissors the edge will wear out. IMO self sharpening scissors are fairy-tales. ;)
 
>"Vic knives are generally longer, which is good if you have really large hands, but bad for easy pocket-carry. The Wengers are shorter."

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True, but there is a way around this. Victorinox does make a number of their basic models in a slightly smaller, more pocket-friendly size, 84mm vs. the standard 91mm. These smaller versions include the Tinker, Spartan, Recruit, Cadet (metal), Waiter and other variations. Check them out <a href="http://swiss-knife.com/EN/SK/classic_range/84mm.html">here</a>. I ordered a mini-Spartan from these folks and was quite happy with the price and service. And the mini-screwdriver that twists into the corkscrew of a standard sized SAK also fits into the corkscrew of the 84mm version.
 
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