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What folding lockback knife would James Bond carry?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by colubrid, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    Nobody mentioned it, but OP, it is a Walther PPK, not Walter.

    @Andy the Aussie, right on. :) Yeah, lockbacks are not illegal here. It is all down to circumstance. What you cannot do is take any knife out for the intention of self defence. Technically you can have a <3” blade slip joint without any reason, but if you “threatened” somebody...
     
  2. miso2

    miso2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 19, 2014
    Something curvy, smooth, nice walk and talk, and bites his finger.
     
  3. colubrid

    colubrid Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 26, 2005
    I was just reading somewhere that Blade forums UK was shut down by the government and they also made it illegal to ship knives to a private residence.
     
  4. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    What’s Blade forums UK? It is true that they are putting up obstacles to internet sales, but the new system will simply be to pick it up at a local post office or designated business. It’s an age check. Very annoying for us law-abiding people, but hardly life changing.
     
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  5. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    But, TBH @colubrid, let’s just keep politics out of GKD. :)
     
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  6. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 29, 2010
    Not sure about any of the story on UK Blade Forums (didn't know there was one) but here is the UK .gov link...

    https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

    And summary (but to the original point - no lock knives are not "illegal" to own)...

    Basic laws on knives
    It’s illegal to:
    • sell a knife to anyone under 18, unless it has a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less
    • carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less
    • carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
    • use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife)
    Scotland
    In Scotland, 16 to 18 year olds are allowed to buy cutlery and kitchen knives.

    Lock knives
    Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:
    • have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
    • can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener
    Banned knives and weapons
    It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:

    • butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
    • disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
    • flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
    • gravity knives
    • stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
    • zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
    • swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
    • sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
    • push daggers
    • blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
    • telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
    • batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
    • hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
    • shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
    • kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
    • kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
    • kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
    • hand or foot-claws
    • knuckledusters
    Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.

    Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon
    Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

    • taking knives you use at work to and from work
    • taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
    • if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
    • if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it
     
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  7. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    And there you have it. HMG guidance. Doing outdoors stuff in a forest or even just camping on site can justify locking folders and fixed blade knives, though not explicitly expressed in that basic guidelines document. I often see people who have brought along 7” kitchen knives to a campsite and nobody turns a hair. I think there may be some misapprehension over the UK and knives in general. The real point, as in every area of life, is don’t be a ****.
     
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  8. colubrid

    colubrid Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 26, 2005
    Britains Got Talent
     
  9. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    And Britain's knife laws would effect licensed-to-kill James Bond how exactly? They have laws about running around killing people too, don't they?

    I mean, God Save the Queen, you opened the thread. If you wanted to talk about knife laws, there are places to do it.

    And James Bond's EDC knife would be used for making lemon twists for martinis and cutting bikini straps only.

    Gentlemans knife. Possibly a William Henry.
     
  10. marcinek

    marcinek

    Jan 9, 2007
    Ventana Azure.
     
  11. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    A mate of mine spent a summer working behind the bar at Gleneagles.

    After a round of golf, the original 007 walked up and ordered a malt whisky.

    “Would you like ice with that, Mr Connery?” asked my friend.

    “Don’t be shilly, boy”, came the reply.
     
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  12. Etna

    Etna

    443
    Jun 17, 2015
    007 has a license to kill. The law has got nothing on him.
    Anyway, a fine British gentleman such as himself probably will have only the most exquisite of slipjoints on him. Or a SAK.

    But definitely not a modern folder.
     
  13. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    I’d give him a Benchmade 710. As a naval officer he would appreciate the theory of the recurve, if not the practice. As a fighter, he would appreciate the value of the recurve.

    But quite honestly, the first thing you look for in any environment is something to clobber your opponent with. A pocket knife will not be your best solution in most scenarios, with basic training. In the Antarctic, or in a meadow, it might be different, perhaps. If you are holding any sort of firearm, with no ammo, you probably have an equal to or more effective weapon. I have tried, unsuccessfully, to save people’s lives after blunt trauma wounds. You can hit someone with a computer keyboard and seriously mess them up. It’s all about the mind.
     
  14. fishface5

    fishface5

    Feb 3, 2001
    Bond wants slim light and stabby. OTFs are out unless you can stab with them. Old Bond = Mercator. New Bond = Gerber AF auto or maybe a protech with good grip, like a TR3. Or a small fixed like a Nealy. Non knife options for damage? Sure, but when you need a knife you need a KNIFE. And you don't have to hope something else is at hand.
     
  15. Wowbagger

    Wowbagger Basic Member Basic Member

    Sep 20, 2015
    Like this ? :
    time 2:15
    time 2:37


    As a kid I knew a guy named "Moose". In a bar fight he took a 2x4 across the face just like that. Didn't knock him down. He put the guy in the hospital.

    Moose was about as wide as he was tall (not very tall). Very first class show car Ford Fairlane muscle car. He was highly instrumental in getting a real drag strip in our town with stands and "christmas tree". He was the real deal.
     
  16. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bond needs to learn from a real pro...
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  17. ChazzyP

    ChazzyP Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Dec 27, 2014
    Date of manufacture/introduction and vintage of Bond notwithstanding, I would agree with several others that an Al Mar Eagle or Falcon would fit the bill for folding lockback. Very stabby and very sleek. I'd go for Talon model over the HD or UltraLight as it's one-hand opening and has no pocket clip--I just can't see JB with a clip showing.

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    Second choice with the same criteria would be a Buck 110 auto. Somewhat less sleek, but still stabby and classic for sure. I don't see Bond with a belt sheath, though, and the 110's a heavy bugger for in-pocket carry. Still a reasonable choice given the OP's specs. We need a pic of this from @Aryan29 .

    Thinking about it some, the lock-release mechanism doesn't really come into play as any scenario with 007 using a knife likely doesn't involve closing and re-pocketing, the knife being thrown, perhaps, or left sticking out of a villain, or used to cut Bond and a lovely companion free and dropped.

    All criteria aside, though, I still can see our man with almost any Shiro or perhaps an elegant Italian beauty.

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  18. Yorkshire Boy

    Yorkshire Boy

    947
    Sep 27, 2008
    As has been correctly stated it is false to say lock knives are illegal in the UK.

    As far as I know, britishblades was not shut down by the government but because the owner became unwell and wasn't able to keep up with it.

    So please don't peddle falsehoods because people just read it and believe it and spread it around.

    Perhaps Bond would carry a Bernie Garland bushcraft locking folder. Or with Bond's Scottish family link, if he was to carry a fixed blade maybe he would carry a sgian dubh, perhaps a custom made one by Sheffield smith Stuart Mitchell.
     
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  19. GermanyChris

    GermanyChris

    Feb 18, 2015
    To believe what you want about another country helps justify a personal or political dogma.
     

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