What is an 840 T??? Please help

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BigSkyColl

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HI everyone!
I am a new Schrade collector and I found a (stamped) 840 T on ebay but I cannot find any information on it, when was this made ect. Thanks in advance for the help.
Darren
 
Im not positive but I searched it and I think the seller is just reading the stamp wrong. I believe its a 34ot. I have several 34ot's that look like an 8 and some of the 33 ot's look like 38 or 88. Might be wrong, but it measures up like a 34ot as far as size is concerned and shape etc. and there is no 84ot listed on the inventory list either .- Joel
 
Joel, here is a picture there are 3 for bid, what do you think here is the page for it click on the bottom picture for a larger picture, it sure looks like an 8??????
Thanks,Darren http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/kensinglimited/MVC-635S_001.JPG?vvid=54638816&allow_track_link=1&track=0239ab9318-bc421&sp=1&vsid=1&vgp=0&vimgs=MVC-633S_001.JPG,MVC-634S_001.JPG,MVC-635S_001.JPG[/IMG]
 
If seach E-bay for "840t" you get three hits, they are all 34OT's, and not in very good shape. Probably why they can't read the tang.
 
Here's the knife stamp in question:
MVC-635S_001.jpg


Looks like an 84OT stamp for sure.

And here's the knife, drum roll please:
MVC-633S_001.jpg


Voila! It's an 34OT with an 84OT stamp. I guess.
 
Or.. could it be a 34OT with rust pits on the three making it look somewhat like an 8,the same way the S in Schrade is distorted?

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Upstream said:
Or.. could it be a 34OT with rust pits on the three making it look somewhat like an 8,the same way the S in Schrade is distorted?

snge2u.jpg
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I think your diagnosis is probably true, and I thought the same. So many times stamps are misread because they are so tiny. I was hoping for a more dramatic ending on this thread though. At any rate, that 34OT looks unused from a blade usage standpoint. Too bad it apppears to have been hanging out on the wrong side of the tracks.
 
So the 8OT is called a "senior"??
The blade is 3/8" longer than the "middleman" huh?
My 8OT looks a lot like the 34OT
At first I thought it was an 34OT :eek:
34OTa-1.jpg
 
At first, I thought the picture of the 34OT was an 8OT. On an unclear picture, the handles and blades look very similar, when you can't tell the closed length. 4" vs 3 5/16"

They are pretty much the same blade configuration. The 8OT's clip blade, to my knowledge, never had the nail nick with a half moon shape, and the profile of the clip was different.

On the 34OT the blade ran pretty much straight down from the tip, while on the 8OT, at the tip, the profile of the blade had more of a pronounced swell.
 
I don't have all the books and catalogs, but some of the folks in this forum do. If they would chime in maybe we could find out if Schrade ever made an 84OT. Interestingly, besides the 3 active auctions, I found 3 more in a search of "closed" auctions (in the last month; one that closed yesterday) for 84OTs. [Well a couple of them were 84zeroTs and one an 84OhT]... and you have to search it that way to find them all! I started searching closed auctions, because I just saw the beginning of this thread yesterday (before the photo posts) and reckoned the auctions in question might have closed. So that's 6 in the last month that all look like 34OTs, and some with no rust damage that clearly appear to be marked with an 8 instead of a 3. The upshot is that there must've been a run of 34OTs where the guy doing the pattern stamps was very heavy handed, or perhaps too farsighted and selected an 8 instead of a 3 in setting up the stamp!! I knew I had two 34OTs, so I went to see if one of the stamps might look like 84OT, but both of them were clearly 34OT.
Later,
Barry
 
The actual tang stamping dies were one piece, the diesinkers cutting away the non-image area around the letters and numbers. This image of a tangstamp owned by a forum member has been flopped (reversed) to make it readable.

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It is possible the stamping die in question picked up some metal trash, was broken or somehow deformed, causing the 3 to appear to be an 8. To my knowledge, there was never a 84OT made on a 34OT frame or otherwise.
 
Hey Thanks guys, I did'nt think I would spark up such a Thread, I did order one so I will give it a close look when I get it. Thanks again everyone!! It's been fun...
Darren
 
Hey Darren,
No worry! Thats what the forum is for..
We have seen this 84 issue before.
I think we need to investigate a "little" more.
The overpunch issue with the 3 looking like a 8 is all we've come up with which is the probably reason but...
With Schrade "anything is possible"
TTYL
Larry
 
We have had this discussion before. Unfortunately the Search function is disabled and Google couldn't unearth the old topic eather. But I think the old topic participants came to the same conclusion, that the 84OT knives are simply poorly stamped or unreadable 34OT knives.
 
BigSkyColl said:
Hey Thanks guys, I did'nt think I would spark up such a Thread, I did order one so I will give it a close look when I get it. Thanks again everyone!! It's been fun...
Darren
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We don't need much of an excuse for digging around after our own examples, or doing some research. I learn something new about my own knives all the time.
 
lrv said:
Hey Darren,
No worry! Thats what the forum is for..
We have seen this 84 issue before.
I think we need to investigate a "little" more.
The overpunch issue with the 3 looking like a 8 is all we've come up with which is the probably reason but...
With Schrade "anything is possible"
TTYL
Larry
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Here are two older threads where the strange tang stamps. It seems like this is acommon problem with some of the smaller stamps containing numbers "3,6,8,9".
 
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