What is considered a "handmade" knife?

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People seem to have a whole range of definitions of handmade when it comes to knives. Personally, "handmade" means that only one person, using a minimum number of power tools, usually just a grinder or sander, works on the knife from start to finish and does not include precut blanks or kits. In other words, a maker starts with raw materials and ends with a blade. Now, I'm not saying he or she can't work on more than one knife at a time, so long as only that person does all the work, with a few exceptions. What else can be considered "handmade" out there?
 
I assume you are talking about a fixed blade? With folders, a milling machine can be a must, moreso with autos. I would classify many of the "custom" knives out there as Mid Tech. I do not see using a CNC mill as "handmade".
 
I agree with you thompsonblades.

Brad Southard makes "hand made" knives.

Kevin Wilkins makes "hand made" knives.

I don't consider a Sebenza to be "hand made".
 
Here we go.....

Look around in the forum as there are threads that address this issue. It usually winds up with personal disagreements between members and some hurt feelings.

In the end, nothing is solved or comprehensively defined. The term "handmade" cannot be definitively described to the satisfaction of all as it is simply a matter of opinion.

My vocation requires that I sometimes build and finish custom cabinets for my customers. However, some in my profession do not think of my cabinets as handmade. These folks are commonly called in my industry as "neanders", short for neanderthals. Sometimes their work is quite good, sometimes a bit rustic, but always time consuming. In some cases they mistake the amount of time spent as an indicator of generating a quality product.

Their criteria is NO power tools, period. Materials are bought rough, and hand planed and edged using hand powered planes. (Yikes!!) Wood should be picked out in person, from the sawyer that cut and stickered the wood. NO modern finishes, only hand mixed shellac, or linseed and tung oils. NO modern fillers. Hide glue only, mixed in a hot pot - no carpenter's glue. Hardware (hinges, locks, latches, etc.) is a touchy subject, and now the purists that can't cast brass themselves purchase from brass foundries that still hand cast hardware.

No nails or screws; the correct joinery, adhesive and pegs should suffice if the fit is good. The only place they seem to give ground is sandpaper. That seems to be OK, but not sure why.

Using the same rigid standards, you could make the same comparisons to knife making. There is a video posted here somewhere of a guy that makes his own steel!! Now extend that out; did the maker cure the bone, horn or wood in the handle? Did he make the spacer materials? Did he make the adhesives? Did he grind on a large sander/grinder? Did he use polishing compounds on a wheel or did he finish the knife by hand? Did he turn down any pins or make any handle fasteners himself in his metal working equipment or are they "store bought"? Did someone else do the heat treating of the blade? If it is a leather handle, did he tan the leather? Are metal guards and butts hand cast or hand sawn and polished from raw materials?

PERSONALLY, I don't know where the line is and I really do have a dog in the fight of "handmade" versus "custom" or "semi custom". Some (mostly garage hobbyists) think I shouldn't sell my work as hand made even though I start with raw lumber and sketch, taking it to fruition by spraying a modern, long lasting finish to complete it. Since I have been dinged here by poor language, I will refrain from expressing my exact sentiment on that subject.

On the woodworking forums I frequent friends have become enemies and many have left as this issue has been beaten to death over many a heated thread. It is now a subject that is avoided.

It was "deja vu all over again" (thanks, Yogi), when "handmade" question has come up a couple of times here.

You can literally substitute ALL crafts into this argument, anything from gun making (do you make your own barrels, actions, sear assemblies and stocks?), jewelry making (do you cut your own stones, do you buy the molds or make them yourself?) and on an on. In the end, the answer seems to be the same; it is up to the individual to decide.

I have no doubt many learned opinions will follow to clear this issue up.

Robert
 
My answer is: does it really matter if it is a true "handmade" knife or not? I buy a knife because I like it, not because of how many hours somebody spent making it.
One thing that matters to me when buying a "custom" knife is that the blade should be hand ground by the maker. CNC-machined parts are otherwise perfectly OK.
 
I consider Yuna Knives to be handmade because the only automated tool he uses is a 4" grinder that he built. Everything else is done by hand using hacksaws and things like that.
 
I think that whatever you are making, use the right tool for the job.

Sounds like some people think "handmade" starts with raw ore, with tooth, nail,and fist for construction.
 
Envision a continuum.

On one end is a big machine that a box pops out of (inside the box is a knife with surfaces that have never been touched by human hands).

On the other end of this continuum is a prehistoric man (or woman) that uses "tools" to make "knifes". These "tools" are merely blunt stones created by nature and deposited on earths surface, and these "knives" are merely edged rocks (typically chert or obsidian)....neat, but not very practical for EDC.

So it is up to every buyer to decide on his/her own what does this notion of "handmade" mean and where to draw the line on the continuum.
 
My answer is: does it really matter if it is a true "handmade" knife or not? I buy a knife because I like it, not because of how many hours somebody spent making it.
One thing that matters to me when buying a "custom" knife is that the blade should be hand ground by the maker. CNC-machined parts are otherwise perfectly OK.

My thoughts exactly. I would go as far as to say that if a machine can do a better job, than a human hand, by all means.
 
I've got a Shiva style of knife a fixed blade made by a fella out of Kettle Isle Kentucky I believe, D. Hoskins. Anyways it is truly a handmade knife. He forged the ats34, and uses hand drills, files and sandpaper etc. to finish it. The dude is an artist. It is truly handmade. keepem sharp
 
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Unless you used your own two hands to create the materials for the knife from the raw elements listed in the Periodic Table Of Elements, then you can't say your knife is "hand made". ;):D
 
Unless you used your own two hands to create the materials for the knife from the raw elements listed in the Periodic Table Of Elements, then you can't say your knife is "hand made". ;):D

A REAL knife maker would not take the easy way out. He/she would insist on assembling (by hand of course) the electrons, neutrons, and protons into the atoms that comprise the necessary elements.
 
A REAL knife maker would not take the easy way out. He/she would insist on assembling (by hand of course) the electrons, neutrons, and protons into the atoms that comprise the necessary elements.

WOW! Yur' pretty picky ain't ya'?:D
 
A handmade guitar is made up of manufactured items (the wood, tuners, bridge, nut, electronics), but that doesn't change the fact that it is handmade, if IT, the guitar, not the components, was put together and "made" by hand.

On the same level with a knife, the components are not made by the maker, simply put together, shaped, and made by hands into a knife, rather than a pile of steel, micarta, screws and titanium.

As to when too much technology is involved? Well, I'd imagine the Japanese blacksmiths of old would not look at knives by Ken Onion or whomever as being handmade as they buy blanks of steel and whatnot, whereas they would have to make such things themselves. It's simply a changing of the times and technology - there's always those who oppose it. It doesn't fit the definition most people have of handmade when someone perhaps has their blades cut out by a water jet, but most likely the blank steel was made in some similar manner, and it just makes sense to use the same to form the blade shape; it saves time and money.

Kevin Wilkins, for example, has his blades cut out en masse, but I don't think many would try to argue that his are any less quality, or any less perfect or capable of perfection because of it.

made by hand, rather than by machine is the definition of handmade, but I think that these days that is rather outdated. When you use a grinder your hands are still involved, when you program a water jet cutter, your hands are still involved, when you use a power sander and so on (if they even use those - I'm not sure what all is on the borderlines of handmade or not for knives). I think it's more an indefinable measure of intent and attention from the maker.

A more interesting question I think is, what is custom, semi-custom, or otherwise?

I've always found it odd that what to me is a handmade knife is sold as a custom. I consider a custom something made specifically for the CUSTOMer purchasing it, and the dictionary seems to feel the same. Yet makers will sell and advertise their 'custom' knives that they made with no one in mind, but just to sell.

I don't see custom and handmade is being intrinsic to one another - an item made specifically for one customer can still be made by a machine, and an item made by hand could be just like 100 others a knifemaker has made.

Ultimately, I don't see the knives Kevin Wilkins makes as being custom, unless he makes one specifically for you that is different; I feel the same about any maker of knives, doesn't matter who.

As to handmade or not - in my opinion as everything else has been - while I'm not entirely certain the manufacturing processes at CRK, I wouldn't just immediately assume their knife aren't handmade. It may be made by more than 1 pair of hands, but that doesn't mean the attention or intention, as I said earlier, is any less.
 
Performance quality is really not even a part of the question. But 'handmade' and 'custom' pieces can command a premium for some other ethereal quality with regards to rarity and artistry, whether or not it's actually there. A 'handmade' or 'custom' knife doesn't have to be a good one, and 'production' knives have several hand finishing steps applied.
 
I make knives with no powertools, I call those handmade.
I make knives with powertools, I call those custom.
 
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