What is reality of cfk cutlery company/ cfk knives by jason baker????

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HELLO EVERY ONE!
reference:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ives-as-hand-made-when-they-are-blanks/page20
i researched & got following facts.

He is claiming that all of his knives material forged in Germany, Blades done in UK & than they assemble these knives in the USA??????? WHAT A JOKE! after all that he can sell his knives for average $50 $70. and 2500+ per moth a handmade knife really?

First thing his knives are not HANDMADE They are factory made production knives

Secondly, They are completely finished in wazirabad, PAKISTAN
I can also name the people he is working with too.

I was thrilled to see how well he created his hype on YouTube, Facebook etc. How well he disguised a big lot of people. He should get Noble Prize for this, really I recommend

And I am very surprised he made many US people (his buyers) a fool. That's a great shame for CFK CUTLERY COMPANY USA Why he is lying, Why he can't mention in his eBay listings that his knives are coming from Pakistan? I wonder why he is robbing their own US citizens? MAKING IT SHORT Guys, All of CFK cutlery company knives are

100% MADE IN PAKISTAN!
AND THEY ARE NOT HANDMADE THEY ARE FACTORY MADE!

Don't waste your money to support a greatest fraud of all times!!!

Mr.Jason: i just want him to be HONEST and write in his eBay listings Origin of knives is PAKISTAN & LET THE PEOPLE KNOW ITS FACTORY MADE And print Pakistan on his knives instead of CFK US , It should be CFK PAKISTAN!!! Thanks
 
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Where are you from?

What are your sources?

What is your real name?

How can I believe you when you use the phrase "greatest fraud of all times in knife making history"?

Damn, I sound like Les Robertson, LOL.
 
as a "journalist" with a story you need to put your real name on that story.
 
And why did you post this here?
 
I can't disclose my name etc because i feel threat from them for disclosing truth! No body ever dare this but i do so people should appreciate me & support me.
My source is people who are making knives for CFK & those people who have been contacted by CFK. They have emails correspondence with CFK for large orders. i request jason to come here and upload pictures of their workshop where 2500+ pieces are in process of making. Once they give evidence, i will upload evidence against them which will be enough to make conclusion that yes these all knives are from Pakistan!

I pray for CURSE to Liar for lifetime.
 
Update! I have been told by a guy who is my main source of all information in Pakistan. He is knife manufacturer in wazirabad. And he was contacted by Jason through Alibaba.com and he have his emails saved in Alibaba account & also in his email account he can share these emails with us too. I hope after this more people will come up to expose culprit. I recommend all do not buy any knife on eBay from any seller.
eBay is a place of JUNK KNIVES! Buy from authentic makers
If you want real combat knives go for TOPS company they offer very affordable knives. I wont post more until we get response from Jason/CFK company
 
The truth shall set you free.
Just really thought the tops plug was funny.

P.S. If you want real combat knives go for TOPS company they offer very affordable knives.
 
@sh00ter01; I am inviting all sensible people to expose the culprits in society. CFK knows the truth that they are cheating! About TOPS, I shared best alternative as per my thinking. Thank you everyone for visiting that thread. If that thread won't work I will go to the next step until they are exposed!
 
black-storm said:
@sh00ter01; I am inviting all sensible people to expose the culprits in society. CFK knows the truth that they are cheating! About TOPS, I shared best alternative as per my thinking. Thank you everyone for visiting that thread. If that thread won't work I will go to the next step until they are exposed!
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I haven't been following the drama too much, but figured something was a foul. Hence my 'one and done' with CFK.

I don't have any pertinent information to add unfortunately.
 
black-storm said:
About TOPS, I shared best alternative as per my thinking. Thank you everyone for visiting that thread. If that thread won't work I will go to the next step until they are exposed!
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I'm pretty partial to Scrap Yard Knife Co stuff, but if you want something for $50-$100, Ontario is pretty nice too. Esse, Kabar / Becker, etc...

CFK has them in the shipping speed dept, though... CFK will get you a PAKI knife in-hand about five days after you buy it online. Busse can't touch that :)
 
It's more than just CFK. It's CFK. IPAK survival, and yellowhawk custom kydex. Yellowhawk by all appearances and reviews makes excellent custom kydex sheaths. But one of the knives he pushes is his BMF2 and LMF bushcraft knifes in a "system" (translated to knife and kydex sheath combo). The knives bear a striking similarity to knives sold by CFK/IPAK, and Alibaba.com(ie. Pakistani knives).

Yellowhawk makes sheaths for CFK/IPAK and the owner has appeared in a youtube video with the "owner" of CFK/IPAK. The BMF/LMF are claimed to be manufactured by a (wait for it), old English knife making guild to his stringent specifications and are made from cryo quenched O1 tool steel. He's recently gotten his hook (or should I say talons) into two legitimate knife makers from the U.S. and has been pushing two knives designed by him along with the accompanying Sheath "system". One of the things that's amusing is that both knives from two different makers bear the same name (D.W. Back Country prounounced Delta Whiskey Back country as he is a retired special forces operator that was assigned to a special forces A-Team, a fact he never lets you forget in his youtube videos), have completely different designs, are manufactured completely differently (handforged vs. machined) and are made of two completely different steels.

Of late he's compared the two and has had the gall to sing the praises of the machined knife over the forged knife (a Peter Kohler design) saying how much tougher it was because its made of a "super steel". My guess is he's pushing it because it can be manufactured in a more timely manner along with his "system" as Peter Kohler has an approximate 1+ year wait on his custom hand forged knives. When asked about the name and location of the old English knife guild that makes the BMF2/LMF the response was that he could not give specific info on these builders. What?!?!? As a builder i'd be pissed if a customer refused to give info about me to other prospective customers.

I guess my big beef with this guy is that he's pushing this knife as a subject matter expert (retired special forces, bushcrafter and AT through hiker) but its highly questionable because of his association with CFK/IPAK, the similarity between what they sell, and his refusal to answer as simple a question as who manufactures to product you sell. I own about a half dozen CFK knives and as far as looks go I am pleased. the price was right also. But as I've matured as a collector I am more interested in higher end and custom knives. I cannot attest to the durability of the knives I have purchased from CFK but I will definitely by putting then to the test in the future to see if I in fact got more that my moneys worth.
 
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Darq1 said:
It's more than just CFK. It's CFK. IPAK survival, and yellowhawk custom kydex. Yellowhawk by all appearances and reviews makes excellent custom kydex sheaths. But one of the knives he pushes is his BMF2 and LMF bushcraft knifes in a "system" (translated to knife and kydex sheath combo). The knives bear a striking similarity to knives sold by CFK/IPAK, and Alibaba.com(ie. Pakistani knives). .
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Yeah I have no doubt (IMHO) all these knives that look and quack like ducks are ducks. They are all Paki knives and I am sure everyone selling them is making a tidy profit with a large mark-up no matter their BS story about marketing plan. The Yellowhawk guy endorses the CFK model by making sheaths for him and recommending his stuff in videos and on Facebook. I think he is a legit Kydex guy who makes decent stuff for a lot of factory knives and custom makers. His knife that I have seen is Paki like CFK but marked up even more. Small overpriced Paki bushcraft blades don't really interest me. I have some $13-$30 Moras that work fine, and a SYKCO 511, Rodent 6, etc... I never tried YH stuff and have stuck to BB, AZwelke, Rainwalker, and Mashed Cat. Some of the YH designs I have seen look great.
 
Yeah, the sheaths are fantastic. I unfortunately bought the CFK knives prior to doing any research here on them and taking the word of Doug Wilson of yellowhawk. My issue with him, is that if he'll lie about the knives, what else will he lie about. I have a real issue with stolen valor being a veteran myself and having worked as a law enforcement officer for the Department of Defense for the past 15+ years. There have been quite a few occasions where individuals who claim to have been special forces were actually assigned to special forces support units which is not the same thing. A unit crest and a patch do not a special operator make. It's also been my experience that individuals involved in those fields tend not to speak of it ad nauseum. I guess I took this guys recommendation because he came endorsed by several other product reviewers I respect. Strangely enough none of them have reviewed CFK, IPAK, or the BMF2/LMF knives. That alone should have told me something.
 
gonebad395 said:
The truth shall set you free.
Just really thought the tops plug was funny.

P.S. If you want real combat knives go for TOPS company they offer very affordable knives.
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"SPECIAL OPS TRUST TOPS CAUSE THEY'RE HARD TO THE CORE"

How could you NOT buy them?
 
One thing can be said about TOPS, and that is they at least show videos of their knives in use as well as videos of their knives being manufactured. I think my only complaint with my Tops knife is the crappy nylon sheath that they and most of the manufacturers are pushing. There are more kydex sheath makers on the old interweb than you can shake a stick at and these guys are pushing this crap on us. IMO charge me extra for a decent kydex sheath, or charge me less for no sheath and Ill order my own. The leather isn't too much better. The leather sheath that comes with the Benchmade bushcraft knife is a paperthin POS.
 
Darq1 said:
The leather sheath that comes with the Benchmade bushcraft knife is a paperthin POS.
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CFK leather sheaths are pretty damn nice in my experience. Sometimes the hardware, snaps, etc... are not perfect, but overall the leather is impressive, I will say that. Did it come from the factory leftovers of some fine Italian shoe factory? Hahahah... who knows, but they are not bad.
 
That is very true. They use good quality leather on their sheaths and they are put together well. The style is growing on me, but I do like the versatility of kydex. I think I'd be a little happier if they at least had a D-ring so that you could use them as a dangler.
 
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