My survival kit is a project or obsession i have had the last 10 years. that is what boyscouts and a military scout master will do to you. I have been working on a fishing kit and I already have all the line, hooks, swivels, and weights that I need. My question is what lures shoud i place in there in terms of flies, spoons, spinners, and grubs. what does everyone else work with? thank you
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What Kind of fishing lures should go in a survival kit?
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In my small fishing kit I have 3 or 4 small flies and 3 or 4 small rubber grubs. In my small psk I have one small fly. The only reason I have these are to catch the first fish. After that I usually use the fish guts for bait and have had good success with this. I don't know how practical spinners and larger baits would be due to the fact that you will be limited to the amount of line and action you can give these baits plus they take up a lot of room. The fish I have cought with this method are bluegill,trout,catfish and suckers. These are good eating and substance if needed and a lot of fun too. After catching the first fish set up several bush hooks with the new bait and you can leave them and tend to other needs.
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IIRC military survival kits used to (still do?) have white jigs in the fishing kit. The reasoning was that the white jig was a "universal" lure that worked for a great variety of fresh water & ocean fish. Today there might be better alternatives with modern plastic baits but I don't think fish have gotten so much smarter that the white jig wouldn't still work. 
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I agree with the other posts. My first choice outside a bare hook and bait, would be a beetle spin. Problem with that is it requires action, as do many other lures. Therefore, I like the others, would go with the grub if you have to have a lure in the kit. Just keep in mind stick with the lures that don't require much movement. With limited resources in a survival situation, that could be a problem.
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How about a DuPont Spinner?
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shgeo said:
Sounds good to me!
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Hey Guys....
Another thing for you guys to keep in mind when packing rubber grubs,worms or such into your kits is that,, these plastic baits,, if not kept seperate from other items,, can eat through certain other plastics, either destroying them completely or staining them for good. If you keep the plastic aits in a tiny ziplock baggy, this won't happen.
Other things you can use other than jigs and hooks are tiny spinners,,spoons, or even hard body baits. In my kit I keep a good length of spiderwire braided Spectra (like Kevlar) instead of mono fishing line.
The spiderwire will last Many more times over then mono,,is much stronger, and can also be used for other things such as sewing were mono, doesn't work as well.
I have also made, and caught fish on plain hooks with a piece of tinfoil, and also when "Road Kill Chumming" I use a small piece of either white plastic grub, or white electrical wire insulation. This work Very well for frenzied fish.
Who knows what Road Kill Chumming is and how it works ?
If no one gets it,, i'll Explain...
ttyle
Eric....
Another thing for you guys to keep in mind when packing rubber grubs,worms or such into your kits is that,, these plastic baits,, if not kept seperate from other items,, can eat through certain other plastics, either destroying them completely or staining them for good. If you keep the plastic aits in a tiny ziplock baggy, this won't happen.
Other things you can use other than jigs and hooks are tiny spinners,,spoons, or even hard body baits. In my kit I keep a good length of spiderwire braided Spectra (like Kevlar) instead of mono fishing line.
The spiderwire will last Many more times over then mono,,is much stronger, and can also be used for other things such as sewing were mono, doesn't work as well.
I have also made, and caught fish on plain hooks with a piece of tinfoil, and also when "Road Kill Chumming" I use a small piece of either white plastic grub, or white electrical wire insulation. This work Very well for frenzied fish.
Who knows what Road Kill Chumming is and how it works ?
If no one gets it,, i'll Explain...
ttyle
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Hi...
Small spinners such as Blue fox vibrex,,or Panther Martin's work well.. Also spinners such as Rooster tails,, however they need a jerk to activate..
Spoons such as Little Cleo's, Daredevels,,and small plugs or hard body baits such as Rapalas are also worthwhile, proven, and simply catch fish.
Hope that helped..
ttyle
Eric....
Small spinners such as Blue fox vibrex,,or Panther Martin's work well.. Also spinners such as Rooster tails,, however they need a jerk to activate..
Spoons such as Little Cleo's, Daredevels,,and small plugs or hard body baits such as Rapalas are also worthwhile, proven, and simply catch fish.
Hope that helped..
ttyle
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wordens rooster tails in the 1/16 oz size in white or black are proven fish getters mepps also makes small inline spinners. I doubt you will be any place where a spoon lure will be worth adding to your "survival" kit due to its size and limited use. I do agree todays soft plastic baits can react with many of todays plastics used in bottles, bags and containers. sardines are a good survival food for you and for bait, I wouldn't recommend the sardines packed in tobasco sauce it may not be as appealing to fish as to a person thats in need of protein.
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In my opinion thats it exactly and it is (normally) a deeper water lure and unless you have really screwed the pooch you will hopefully be on land when you need your survival kit the lighter it is the longer you will carry it and shallow water or shoreline fishing will be your best plan to catch sustenance. big lures catch big fish but little lures catch big and little lunchesswami_p said:
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Hey Guys....
Yaa spinners shech as the Meps or Rooster tails,,Panther Martins are all excellent lures...
Don't rule out spoons though...
I've caught many a fish hand lining a spoon, you just need a little prictice at it...
A spoon can also be jigged fairly decent in deeper water,,like pools and such....
I learned a technique from a teenage Cambodian boy fishing from a pier, using a handline, a 2 liter bottle and a spinner/spoon.He would wrap the line around the bottle a certain way,, then cast the lure, as the line came off the bottle..He then wound it onto the bottle, at somewhat of the same speed a slowly cranked reel would bring it in... He did manage to catch fish, and sometimes caught fish before others, including me, using a $100.00+ setup.
In Steelheading we use a technique called "Hot Shotting".
The lure most commonly used to do this is called a Hot Shot,however any floating shallow diving plug can be used...
The bait is either casted or drifted into position, and held in the current on a tight line.
The bait gets it's movement from the water flowing past it, and it just sits there as it works. A very,,very light spoon can be used this way, as well s a spinner,,under the right conditions.
I caught fish using lures you wouldn't generally use them for under some conditions....
Use techniques that utilize water flow for getting your lures and baits into places you normally wouldn't...
Floating your lure into a target area, then slipping it off of the float,,genrally a large leaf or piece of bark.
Boy,, No one knows or is interested in what "Road Kill Chumming " is Eh!!
ttyle
Eric....
Yaa spinners shech as the Meps or Rooster tails,,Panther Martins are all excellent lures...
Don't rule out spoons though...
I've caught many a fish hand lining a spoon, you just need a little prictice at it...
A spoon can also be jigged fairly decent in deeper water,,like pools and such....
I learned a technique from a teenage Cambodian boy fishing from a pier, using a handline, a 2 liter bottle and a spinner/spoon.He would wrap the line around the bottle a certain way,, then cast the lure, as the line came off the bottle..He then wound it onto the bottle, at somewhat of the same speed a slowly cranked reel would bring it in... He did manage to catch fish, and sometimes caught fish before others, including me, using a $100.00+ setup.
In Steelheading we use a technique called "Hot Shotting".
The lure most commonly used to do this is called a Hot Shot,however any floating shallow diving plug can be used...
The bait is either casted or drifted into position, and held in the current on a tight line.
The bait gets it's movement from the water flowing past it, and it just sits there as it works. A very,,very light spoon can be used this way, as well s a spinner,,under the right conditions.
I caught fish using lures you wouldn't generally use them for under some conditions....
Use techniques that utilize water flow for getting your lures and baits into places you normally wouldn't...
Floating your lure into a target area, then slipping it off of the float,,genrally a large leaf or piece of bark.
Boy,, No one knows or is interested in what "Road Kill Chumming " is Eh!!
ttyle
Eric....
swami_p said:
After reading all these posts I remember a spoon my cousin used and had alot of success with is a Hopkins spoon. It comes in a lot of different sizes and it is hung straight down and played up and down off the bottom and is real good for all types of pan fish. It would fit into a small kit real well. I read somewhere that someone used a p-38 to catch fish with.
Eric, I thought if you had road kill you wouldn't need to fish! Dinner is served...
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I have always had amazing success with the small (1 3/4 and 2 inch) Rapala plugs in both the floating and sinking type. They come in an excess of colors. The silver/black back and gold/black back have never let me down.
I have used them to catch everything from bluegills to seatrout to rainbow and brown trout, from the ocean to the smallest creeks and ponds in the Rockies. Fast water to dead still. Everything attacks em.
The floating type is a great surface popper. The sinking type sinks about a foot a second, to get down deep.
They will outfish an inline spinner every time. They are so good that I have bent down the barbs on all of mine. Even fish barely larger than the plug will take a bite. The only drawback is price. The last time I bought any, they were about four bucks each. Good inline spinners aren't cheap either.
I have also added a small gill net from Brigade Quartermasters to my kit. No plans to try it unless necessary.
Good topic!!!
I have used them to catch everything from bluegills to seatrout to rainbow and brown trout, from the ocean to the smallest creeks and ponds in the Rockies. Fast water to dead still. Everything attacks em.
The floating type is a great surface popper. The sinking type sinks about a foot a second, to get down deep.
They will outfish an inline spinner every time. They are so good that I have bent down the barbs on all of mine. Even fish barely larger than the plug will take a bite. The only drawback is price. The last time I bought any, they were about four bucks each. Good inline spinners aren't cheap either.
I have also added a small gill net from Brigade Quartermasters to my kit. No plans to try it unless necessary.
Good topic!!!
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Hey Paul...
Ahh Ok,, I'll tell you....
This works very well in ponds, and in places where water isn't moving much....
Hang a dead animal ,preferably one that been dead a little while over water where you want to fish. Works well where there are panfish.
As the maggots eat, they will drop down into the water to awaiting fish. The fish will being to hang around in the area waiting for food to fall from the sky.
They will become Very easy to catch on anything that even looks like a maggot.. A small piece of wire insulation, small piece of rubber grub nicked on a hook..It doesn't really seem to matter,,even a fly or jig will work well.
Try it sometime, but remember to fish upwind.
ttyle
Eric...
Ahh Ok,, I'll tell you....
This works very well in ponds, and in places where water isn't moving much....
Hang a dead animal ,preferably one that been dead a little while over water where you want to fish. Works well where there are panfish.
As the maggots eat, they will drop down into the water to awaiting fish. The fish will being to hang around in the area waiting for food to fall from the sky.
They will become Very easy to catch on anything that even looks like a maggot.. A small piece of wire insulation, small piece of rubber grub nicked on a hook..It doesn't really seem to matter,,even a fly or jig will work well.
Try it sometime, but remember to fish upwind.
ttyle
Eric...
Hey Eric....That's about what I figured it was... :barf:
Anyone ever try chumming corn for carp? Or dog food chumming for catfish?
As to the original topic of this thread, most readily available lures will catch fish. I would suggest keeping primarily small lures in your kit. A small lure will catch both large and small fish, where a large lure limits what will be likely to strike it. Ultra-lite spinners, spoons, and plugs are the way to go.
Paul
Anyone ever try chumming corn for carp? Or dog food chumming for catfish?
As to the original topic of this thread, most readily available lures will catch fish. I would suggest keeping primarily small lures in your kit. A small lure will catch both large and small fish, where a large lure limits what will be likely to strike it. Ultra-lite spinners, spoons, and plugs are the way to go.
Paul