What's the thing with Leatherman?

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I haven't checked this board in probably close to a year. What did Tim Leatherman do that upset so many people? Don't really have an opinion of him or his stuff since I've never owned any and neither have any of my friends, hence I can't say anything bad or good about him. Just curious, and hope I didn't just stick my hand in a hornet's nest.
 
Zeppelin said:
I haven't checked this board in probably close to a year. What did Tim Leatherman do that upset so many people? Don't really have an opinion of him or his stuff since I've never owned any and neither have any of my friends, hence I can't say anything bad or good about him. Just curious, and hope I didn't just stick my hand in a hornet's nest.
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TL endorsed Kerry/Edwards by putting his name (and hence the LM company) on a list of outdoor companies that supported Kerry.

People were upset, threatened boycotts etc.
 
Hmmm,

I thought, U.S.A = Free Country

Means he (Tim) is entitled to support whomever he wants. I voted for Bush, but wouldn't hold it against anyone to have a different opinion. Oh well, let the flames begin I suppose.
 
Its fine if you voted for Bush (so did I) and still like Leatherman. No flames.

But another part of the Free Country equation is that I would rather jam red hot knitting needles in my eyes than give financial support to someone like Tim Leatherman. But, I still hold a grudge against S&W too. :)

best regards
 
I shouldn't have even posted this. I don't want to start a fight. If the moderator wants to, he can remove this topic.
 
the BOTTOM line is leatherman makes a damn fine tool, the election is over.

Bush won and Tim supported a loser, look at all those damn Red Sox fans for ALL THOSE YEARS!

:D
 
yam said:
Hmmm,

I thought, U.S.A = Free Country

Means he (Tim) is entitled to support whomever he wants. I voted for Bush, but wouldn't hold it against anyone to have a different opinion. Oh well, let the flames begin I suppose.
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+1 and good post.
 
Leatherman had a booth at the Shot Show in Vegas. The firearms convention of the year. Leathermans employees will suffer more then Leatherman for his actions. These poor guys were beat down because of what he did.

Think about it. His company is aligned with the firearms industry in a big way and he stabbed his employees and customers in the back.

Not a smart move.
 
I grew up in Levi's jeans. They went left, now I wear Carhartt. Starbucks coffee beans can rot on the shelf at the local grocery store. Kmart stopped selling handgun ammo and employed the antigun twins Rosie O'donnell and Penny Marshall, so they can sell their chinese junk to the antigun crowd (how's that panning out by the way?) Verge of bankruptcy for one hundred Alex.

AT&T gave money to Al Gore's campaign. No more dialing down the center in this household.

Tim Leatherman publicly endorsed Hanoi John's candidacy. I purchased a Victorinox SwissTool Spirit (and didn't even need a new multitool).

Are we getting the picture?

Free country. I vote every day. With my dollars. And Tim Leatherman isn't on the ballot. :)
 
powernoodle said:
Its fine if you voted for Bush (so did I) and still like Leatherman. No flames.

But another part of the Free Country equation is that I would rather jam red hot knitting needles in my eyes than give financial support to someone like Tim Leatherman. But, I still hold a grudge against S&W too. :)

best regards
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Ouch. I voted for Bush too. But I would not jam red hot knitting needles into my eyes, uh uh, no way.
 
I don't cruse this area of the forum very often, glad I did today.

I had a Wave a couple of years ago and let my son have it because he had no tools for his new apartment. I was looking to replace the Wave with a *New Wave or Charge. Now, being a free American, I may choose another brand of multi tool. Yes, Mr Leatherman may choose who he wishes to publicly support, and I likewise have that same choice. I may vote with my wallet.

Mr Kerry and I have some serious disagreements.

* - I like the tool.
 
I just wondered, as a french guy, how can Kerry be more bad than Bush?just by looking at his foreign politics, his war, and all the bad stuff he did, how can Kerry be as bad as this guy? I thought nobody could be as bad as him... that's my view of US politics, as a foreigner, but don't feel hurt if you support Bush, just explain me why. this is what I don't understand, i've always heard bad things about him as I never did before about any other USA president, what does he do well? just curious about this. if it's just because kerry is against weapons and knives, for me that's not enough for supporting an (supposed) *******.

sorry if my post is deformed by how we see Bush from outside of the US, but I NEVER heard good things about bush, and only some bad about Kerry, as well as good things about him.
 
choubbi said:
I just wondered, as a french guy, how can Kerry be more bad than Bush?just by looking at his foreign politics, his war, and all the bad stuff he did, how can Kerry be as bad as this guy? I thought nobody could be as bad as him... that's my view of US politics, as a foreigner, but don't feel hurt if you support Bush, just explain me why. this is what I don't understand, i've always heard bad things about him as I never did before about any other USA president, what does he do well? just curious about this. if it's just because kerry is against weapons and knives, for me that's not enough for supporting an (supposed) *******.

sorry if my post is deformed by how we see Bush from outside of the US, but I NEVER heard good things about bush, and only some bad about Kerry, as well as good things about him.
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Kerry and most Democrats, especially at the National level are in favor of draconian anti-gun laws (knives too), are enviromental extremists, and tend toward pro animal rights. Many Leatherman users or potential users aren't gun grabbers, bunny huggers, or tree huggers and participate in recreational or economic activities that these evil people seek to destroy. And since gun grabbers, bunny huggers, and tree huggers are literally out to destroy their way of life, they see no reason why not to boycott someone who gives aide and comfort to their mortal enemy.
 
choubbi said:
if it's just because kerry is against weapons and knives, for me that's not enough for supporting an (supposed) *******.
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Its enough for me. Taking away guns from the populus is a very bad thing. For instance, look at Nazi Germany. Hitler took away all the weapons.
An unarmed populus is very easy to control and it leads to tyranny. Crime rates always seem to go down when the populus is armed and they go up when guns are outlawed. And if you don't believe that statment then look at it from a criminal's point of view. If you were walking down the street and on one side of the road everyone has guns and then on the other side of the road no one was allowed to have them which side would you try to rob? Its easy right... your going to rob the people that you know don't have guns so you don't get shot at. So from my view I see Bush as the lesser of two evils. There are many other reasons I did not vote for Kerry and if you would like to see some of them just click here.
 
To respond to French Guy "What does President Bush do well?" would take more time than I have here, after all this is a blade forum, but just a tidbit.
Things he does MUCH better:
1. Tells the truth. HONESTY
2. Says what he means and means what he says. (We like that a lot) So you don't have to wade thru the political double talk. CHARACTER
3. Puts his political life at risk to do the right thing. COURAGE
4. Publicaly states he puts his trust in God. FAITH
 
This is all about what's called the "red/blue" divide in the U.S. It refers to which states voted for Bush, which ones voted for Kerry, and the gulf in thinking/opinion/point of view that separates them.

You've heard of a theoretical "perpetual motion machine?" This is the perpetual argument thread.

GeoThorn
 
Bodieism said:
For instance, look at Nazi Germany. Hitler took away all the weapons.
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look at afghanistan... everybody there is born with an AK47 in each hand, is it a good thing? if you have watched "bowling for columbine" you see how it can be bad to have weapons without license, as in texas if I remember well. a good balance between too much weapons and not enough would be better, I think. not everyone is sane enough to be allowed to carry a gun, still in my opinion.


after that, Faith is not a quality for me, for a political guy it's more a drawback, religion has nothing to do with politics, and at least in France it has only led to bad things, hopefully religion has no more power in France since 1905, and things are only better now. but for the other qualities, I didn't know, thanks for the info.
 
Mr. French Guy.
I live in Canada and we have had firearms registration laws in this country for over 60 years. When these laws failed to work or make an impact in reducing violent crime, the governments answer was to make more restrictive laws. We have spent well over a billion dollars trying to administer the newest version of gun controll in this country and not one of it's staunchest supporters either government or private has been able to show that it has even saved a single life. Despite very restrictive firearms controls in Britain, Austraila and places such as Northern Ireland violent crime continues to get worse. Now the logic is moving towards more restrictions on knives.
These are not answers. Attack the route problems and these issues will be reduced.
 
coyotebc said:
Mr. French Guy.
I live in Canada and we have had firearms registration laws in this country for over 60 years. When these laws failed to work or make an impact in reducing violent crime, the governments answer was to make more restrictive laws. We have spent well over a billion dollars trying to administer the newest version of gun controll in this country and not one of it's staunchest supporters either government or private has been able to show that it has even saved a single life. Despite very restrictive firearms controls in Britain, Austraila and places such as Northern Ireland violent crime continues to get worse. Now the logic is moving towards more restrictions on knives.
These are not answers. Attack the route problems and these issues will be reduced.
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well, if examples have proven I was wrong, ok... I still don't understand how healthy a nation can be if efficient weapons (I mean guns and machineguns) are accessible to everybody. knives are ok, everybody needs a knife for everyday life, but that's not the case for guns. how do you use a gun in everyday life? after all it's not my country, if everyone of you feel good knowing anybody around you can have a loaded gun, that's just not the same mentality as here in France. Even if there are a majority of *******s here (as in the US), I'm happy in France, and will stay here all my life, I think(or maybe move to japan or stuff like that).
 
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