Where did Kydex sheaths originate?

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The history of thermoformed Kydex as a knife sheath material.

The use of Kydex sheaths in the custom knife field has become commonplace nowadays, but I have become aware that most people do not know much about how the development came about. Before Kydex we essentially had leather or metal or wood. I believe that there were some injection molded plastic scabbards for butcher knives... and some laminated fiberglas scabbards for military knives... but that about covers it.

Knifemaker Jerry Price of Springdale Arkansas is generally credited with the first use of Kydex as a material for knife sheaths sometime in the late 1970s, using flat pieces sewn or riveted together with leather edges, but without making use of the thermoforming properties of the material.

The journey that led me to make kydex sheaths began at the 1981 New York Custom Knife show. There I was approached by a well-known holster designer named Bob Angell to make some special combat knives for him. They were to have several unique features, he would make the unique leather sheaths for them, and they would be called "Vorpals". The original two prototypes made from his drawings were full tang spear-points with long ten inch blades, the tangs were to be rounded-edged under the handles, and the upper grind was to be taper ground... sharp for about 1/3 the length then tapering to full thickness at the handle. A Pull-The-Dot snap boidy was to be screwed into the handle of the knife near the front, and this would engage a matching stud in the sheath, so that the knife would hang vertically, handle down, on the strong side. By thumbing off the snap the knife could be drawn very quickly through the long open front side of the sheath.

I made those two knives for Bob Angell, and a couple more for some other people, using the original design and with Bob's leather work. The concept was highly original and very tactically appropriate, as the very large knife could be drawn amazingly quickly from a concealed location by a movement that did not appear to be threatening. But... while Bob graciously granted permission to continue offering the knives based on his idea, he was not particularly interested in making more sheaths for me. And besides, the leather was rather bulky, and depending on the snap for retention of the knife seemed somehow inelegant, so I began searching for a way to modify the idea and streamline it.

At that time, I had a young fellow named Doug McGowan who was working in the shop with me learning about making knives. Doug and I were sitting around one day brainstorming about other materials that could be used to make sheaths. Doug mentioned that he'd had experience in a theater props department making stage armor, and they had used a material called Kydex (a proprietary name for a brand of PVC/Acrylic alloy) to form-fit armor directly onto a human torso (using a sweater to avoid burns from the 350 degree thermoplastic). The concept of thermoforming a plastic sheath directly onto a knife-blade was quick to follow. I was able to buy a sheet from a local plastics warehouse, and a few experiments later I had a hard plastic scabbard that could carry the knife upside down as in Bob Angell's concept, but which would be much slimmer and and utilize the shape of the knife itself to hold the blade securely. The name "Vorpal" is of course based on the famous poem by Lewis Carroll called "The Jabberwocky" in which the "The Vorpal blade went 'snickersnack'". The sound the knife made when being drawn by a fast punch out of the clamshell open-front sheath sounded just like that! Bob was happy about my interest in further developing his concept, and after I refined the original knife design I first showed the Vorpals with Kydex sheaths at the 1982 New York Custom Knife show. I feel confident in the claim that these were the first thermoformed Kydex knife sheaths ever made and offered to the public. Fellow knifemaker Bob Terzoula was just down the row from me at the show, and was very impressed by the way the sheaths looked and worked and asked how it was done. I was happy to share the technique with a colleague. He started using it, and showed a couple people, and I showed a couple more, and before long the process had spread far and wide. Many makers are now using Kydex sheaths and many innovations and refinements of technique have taken place over the years, though few know the story of how the whole story originated.

I still make knives and fit them with Kydex sheaths, using essentially the same design originally developed in 1982. Others have followed different directions, but I have always sought to make sheaths as smooth and streamlined as possible, using integral folding tabs or snaps, and almost never using rivets or eyelets. My archive webpage is here at: http://www.shirepost.com/Vorpal.html and includes a serial number list of every knife I've ever signed.

It is a subject of great enjoyment to me to see that so many have taken this simple idea and done so much with it. Enjoy!

Tom Maringer
 
Well that's just freakin' cool. I had no idea about the origins myself. Awesome post. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Tom,

I'm old enough to remember, and have always credited you and Bob Terzuola for being the forerunners of kydex sheathmaking. Think it was one of the first issues of SWAT magazine that had a picture of your Vorpal and shoulder rig. I started playing with it around 1990 when I needed a way to keep an effective rescue knife in a low profile package on a whitewater PFD. Now the majority of my work is concealment rigs, so I too am in the "less is more" camp. Most makers are using way more material covering the knife than needed. It's easier that way. This is an interesting craft, and you can see everything from "knife holders" to finely crafted scabbards, with a lot of stops in between. Unfortunately, for a long time most of the stops have been on the lower end of the spectrum, but I'm encouraged by what I see coming from some of the "new kids on the block". There's a whole lot more to this than just grabbing a couple pieces of kydex, applying heat, and fastening them together. A better understanding of the inherent properties and how they act with different thicknesses, will elevate the bar on what's available.

Want to thank you for your "out of the box" thinking and getting the ball rolling using kydex.
 
That's pretty cool!

The idea spread quickly, I bought some kydex at a gun and knife show in 1984 (I think Fort Worth but might have been Houston). It came with a mimeographed instruction sheet on heating and forming. I used aluminum pop rivets peened flat for the first dozen sheathes. I still have one of those sheaths on my truck knife in the side door pocket of my truck. The knife and sheath have made it through 5 trucks and the knife still pops in and out like the day I made it.

On another note, I called your shop and talked to you in the late 1980's trying to find your source for green canvas micarta (black, white, and sometimes maroon were about all that was available then). You had decided not to use it on your handles anymore and I ended up buying a large box full of it from you. I don't make that many knives, and I use a wide variety of materials, so I still have some of that canvas micarta.

thanks for everything,
Luke
 
Hi Luke:
Thanks for the note! I had forgotten all about that green micarta... but what's weird is that just the mention of it and I can smell it! That green has a distinctlve odor when you're grinding it. I still have a pile of exotic woods from about that same time... wenge, zebrawood, cocobolo, etc. I had bought an entire truck load of the stuff, just before I started doing my wire-wrapped grips and no longer used it! (talk about bad timing) The pile has dwindled over the years as I've used some for other projects or sold pieces... but I probably still have at least three milk crates full of blocks.

That's pretty cool! ... (edited for brevity) ... so I still have some of that canvas micarta. thanks for everything, Luke
 
It's interesting to know how it all got started. It must be quite gratifying to see how widespread the use of kydex for knife sheaths has become, and to know that you are the one who started it all.
 
Not wanting to stir the pot, but there was a plastics company in Jacksonville FL in the mid 70's, 1976 I believe, that started making clamshell gun holsters using Kydex, with a leather lining. It could be there that the use of pressure formed kydex first achieved commercial recognition. The Roger's holster company, an offshoot of Alpha plastics I believe, started the Kydex holster business and now Safariland makes most of them.
Of course, they weren't making knife sheaths but that's probably where the idea started.
 
Tom, I remember having one of your brochures way back when- featuring your "Vorpal." I recall wondering what the heck this "kydex" stuff was, but thinking anything that contained one of your blades would be awesome! :D
 
Not wanting to stir the pot, but there was a plastics company in Jacksonville FL in the mid 70's, 1976 I believe, that started making clamshell gun holsters using Kydex, with a leather lining. It could be there that the use of pressure formed kydex first achieved commercial recognition. The Roger's holster company, an offshoot of Alpha plastics I believe, started the Kydex holster business and now Safariland makes most of them. Of course, they weren't making knife sheaths but that's probably where the idea started.

Yes that's true! I was not at all into guns at the time and had never heard of these guys or their holsters until I saw them at a SHOT show at least a year after I started making kydex sheaths. But yes... the leather lined kydex gun holsters did come first.
 
What about "the Snik"? Kydex breakfront holster that may have started it all. Not real sure on the dates - somewhere in late '70s, if memory serves me right (definitely not always). Michael Harries may have had something to do with it.
 
Granted, my posts on this board are scarce enough as to be almost non-existent, but here I must.

Thanks Tom!
 
What about "the Snik"? Kydex breakfront holster that may have started it all. Not real sure on the dates - somewhere in late '70s, if memory serves me right (definitely not always). Michael Harries may have had something to do with it.

That rings a faint bell. It becomes so hazy! "Somebody oughta" (how often have you heard that? :D) ... but really... somebody ought do a book tracing the history of various knifemaking innovations. Like... who came up with the liner lock? Was that Viele or Terzoula? I can't remember! Did Loveless come up with the blind scale bolt idea or was that Corby? Was Walker the first titanium/steel zipper? The knife world evolves by discrete steps... innovations that are adopted by others as they prove themselves useful. The origins of many of those critical steps are getting lost in the mists of time. Any writer/researchers out there interested in such an effort? It would be a fascinating project and it would be a good idea to start it soon before too many knowledgeable people die off. I'll put in a pre-order right now!
 
That rings a faint bell. It becomes so hazy! "Somebody oughta" (how often have you heard that? :D) ... but really... somebody ought do a book tracing the history of various knifemaking innovations. Like... who came up with the liner lock? Was that Viele or Terzoula? I can't remember! Did Loveless come up with the blind scale bolt idea or was that Corby? Was Walker the first titanium/steel zipper? The knife world evolves by discrete steps... innovations that are adopted by others as they prove themselves useful. The origins of many of those critical steps are getting lost in the mists of time. Any writer/researchers out there interested in such an effort? It would be a fascinating project and it would be a good idea to start it soon before too many knowledgeable people die off. I'll put in a pre-order right now!

The Knifemakers Guild or one of the Mags should have at least 10-20 hours of Bob Loveless's take on the knife industry on DVD.
They missed their chance on Bill Moran, George Herron, Buster Warenski and many others that have passed away in the past few years.
Someone write up the questions and topics and fly me out there, I will do it.:D
BB
 
I've had some older customers try to get me to make a "snik" for them through description alone.

Tom, thanks for your comments. I've had some of your original work through my shop, and it's great to see and hold.
 
Rob,

I've toyed around with the idea of making a Snik - originals were made for the 1911 Gov't model. Somewhere around '84 or '85 I modified mine for a different pistol. Should have kept as is, it'd be a neat collector's item now. First thing I ever did with kydex was to cut down and modify some Snik magazine carriers using candle flame for the heat source. Got that from a Rhodesian vet who had done the same. Fast and secure - still got 'em.
 
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