Where the snark is the snark?

Discussion in 'Becker Knife & Tool' started by NixKustoms, Jan 27, 2016.

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  1. JTmisterknifeguy

    JTmisterknifeguy

    477
    May 22, 2013
    Riiiiight. ;)
    I like Hoss!!
    But you wouldn't snark me would ya?
    ...would ya??? :D
     
  2. JTmisterknifeguy

    JTmisterknifeguy

    477
    May 22, 2013
    Yeah, I've seen that Buck at many a wallys world, sitting there like Stinkey Pete from toy story 2 (watching every other toy get sold).
    I'd pay $15-$18 for it, $20 would be a bit much, but I guess you could think of it as an American made Byrd alternative...
     
  3. Jerry D.

    Jerry D.

    Sep 17, 2008
    Good score, Slice. I thought those Bucks looked fun. I'd love to scrounge one of the blue or orange models up that cheap.
     
  4. Yetidayhiker

    Yetidayhiker

    321
    Jan 13, 2013
    MUrph,

    I've never owned a wrangler and don't know jeeps, but I've been wanting one. (Badly). May I ask out of ignorance whats wrong with the JK? Is it's because it got bigger and is offered in 4 doors or something else? Thanks.
     
  5. daizee

    daizee KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 30, 2009

    They lost me at Death Wobble.
     
  6. bigghoss

    bigghoss

    Jul 27, 2011
    This guy gets it.
     
  7. bigghoss

    bigghoss

    Jul 27, 2011
    Basically the V6 in the JK makes it's power at too high an RPM. A 4x4 like a Jeep needs low end power but the current V6 was lifted out of the Dodge Caravan minivan so the power band is all wrong. The engines also don't have the longevity of the 4.0l straight 6.

    The old engines couldn't keep up with emmissions so rather than develop an engine suited for the task they take the cheap way out and use the minivan v6.

    And they're fugly.
     
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  8. KingMC

    KingMC The Pun-isher Super Mod Moderator Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    My first Fiddleback knife came in the mail today, resisted for a while but this one caught more than just my eye and I had to have it. I can see why they are so popular, wow the tolerances are just as tight as I remember, a perfect specimen. Maroon micarta Bushfinger in O1 with tapered tang, lightly used.

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  9. Murphnuge

    Murphnuge Moderator Moderator

    Feb 27, 2010

    All of what Hoss said and I don't like the bigger footprint of the JK. I can't stand the body style. They just ruined it. Of course it's all personal preference, they seem to sell still.
     
  10. bigghoss

    bigghoss

    Jul 27, 2011
    They still sell because most folks don't care how well it actually does off road. Now, they probably do pretty well but most Jeep buyers for a long time now have not been overly concerned with wheeling. I see a bunch of jeeps at work, several are even lifted with lights and bumpers and hi-lifts and such. I think I've only ever seen one dirty one. Usually they're all shined up all purdy.
     
  11. worldwood

    worldwood

    Sep 30, 2012
    I'm not sure what jk stands for, but my father has owned jeeps for years, he loved the old straight 6. Ended up trading it on a newer 4 door one... Then gave that one to moms and bought a dodge ram.


    I have always wanted a wrangler, old 2 door style... Perfect beach and woods vehicle... But a truck is useful more often for me.
     
  12. bigghoss

    bigghoss

    Jul 27, 2011
    JK is the current generation of Wrangler. Every generation of each jeep vehicle has a two letter designation. So a JK, a YJ, and a TJ are all Wranglers but different generations and the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee and others have the same system. I'm sure exactly what the specific letters represent but the code will represent a specific generation of a vehicle line.

    Now if I'm not mistaken these codes only apply to Chysler produced Jeeps. The older ones were CJ's followed by a number. CJ-2a, CJ-5, CJ-7, CJ-8 and such.
     
  13. Silverthorn

    Silverthorn

    Apr 24, 2011
    Damn. This is all good info, but it makes me sad, as I have kinda wanted the big four door Jeep Wrangler for a while. Now I know that I dont want one ..lol. I thought it was just like the two door but scaled up, so I thought it would be a great compromise between a get out there vehicle, while still being a get the whole family and our stuff in it vehicle. Plus from what I hear they get decent milage, which cant be said about my current Jeep Sport body.
     
  14. Psyop

    Psyop

    Oct 17, 2011
    TJ is sort of the best of the modern Jeeps before they got too ridiculous, but I may be biased. That being said a JK is still a great vehicle.
     
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  15. Jerry D.

    Jerry D.

    Sep 17, 2008
    As the voice of dissent, I still wouldn't mind a JK daily driver. My wife has even been thinking about trading in her car for one. Granted, I also have a YJ (square headlights), so there's that to consider when weighing my opinion on the subject.

    I still would much rather have a TJ Unlimited.
     
  16. Psyop

    Psyop

    Oct 17, 2011
    Id totally be down with a JK I just wouldn't get rid of the TJ of course there would need to be some cutting and plastic removal......
     
  17. JTmisterknifeguy

    JTmisterknifeguy

    477
    May 22, 2013
    I'm so sick of the two year old being sick... 😕
    With the wife being in residency (60-80 hr workweeks) I'm usually flying solo, yep, daddy's like a married single parent. And this little one has been through 4 rounds of antibiotics (and yes, she finishes them all), and less than a week or two later, she's got the same crap! Ear infection, hacking cough, fever, achy, whiney... All of which conspire to keep us awake.

    It doesn't help that she has to go to the daycare that I work part time at...Friggin Petri dish!
    This is my third night in a row getting up every 20-45 min to get her water, rub her back, wipe her copious boogers, take her to the bathroom, and give her Tylenol. We've probably gotten a total of 6 hrs of sleep in the last three days.

    Not seriously thinking that I need a real pity party (I know there's folks that deal with much worse and for MUCH longer)

    Just venting a bit.
     
  18. NCSlice

    NCSlice

    Feb 22, 2015
    Hah, guess I did my research right when I got my TJ!
    I def prefer the TJ body, then I started finding out all this other info on the JK and made up my mind. I've heard the motor in the newer ones is better but I haven't done enough research to varify... Still haven't fixed that fugly tho...

    I'm sure the JK is perfectly fine for the average driver, and would have been ok for me, but I had my mind set with the body style and the legendary I6.
     
  19. TBL

    TBL

    Dec 26, 2013
    Smoke gone up for Neko's nuts.

    Fiddlebacks are very nice.

    Jeeps are cool.

    JTknifeguy - same exact situation with my 19 month old. Sh**ty thing to have em constantly sick. The saving grace being they will have a strong immune system by the end of it all!.....if they don't go def from all the damage to the ear drums.
     
  20. bigghoss

    bigghoss

    Jul 27, 2011
    Do you mean better than when they first rolled out the JK or better than the old I6?

    The V6 makes more peak torque and HP but that doesn't tell the whole story. As I mentioned before, where it makes it's power in the RPM range is very important as well as how wide the powerband is. If the engine doesn't really start making power until it's almost wrapped out, then it really doesn't work for a low speed trail crawler. In a vehicle like a Jeep that is often used to creep along rocky trails it's better to have the power come in early and over a wider band even if you make less.

    Another advantage of the old 4.0l I6 is that it evolved from a design that started in the 60's or maybe even the 50's back when people valued a vehicle that could last decades and a few hundred thousand miles. So that engine can rack up 200,000 and beyond without much trouble. These days it's fairly common for people to trade in vehicles every 2-5 years and not even get to 100,000 and so engines need to be efficient and cheap, but not as durable. My understanding is that people just have more issues in the long run with the JK's engine.

    It really boils down to wants and needs. Do you want to keep a rig for the rest of your life and wheel the snot out of it, or do you want something that's more capable than the typical SUV and can take the whole family on a nice back country adventure but you'll probably trade it in in 10 years or less?
     
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